So what did the Club ever do for Motorcaravanners?

StuartO replied on 02/03/2019 12:44

Posted on 02/03/2019 12:44

It’s a while now since the Club was renamed, to reflect that there are lots of motorhomers among Members - but apart from the name change, what has and does the Club plan to do to cater effectively for motorhomers?

Well there has been a programme of improving motorhome servicepoints, to provide drive-over grey water drains, but at the club Site I most recently stayed at there was no lighting at this service point (unlike the others) so using it after dark (and it was dark at 4.30pm that day) was a matter of struggling with a torch.  But I haven’t noticed anything else specifically for motorhomers and in response a suggestion that the Club should develop overnight parking stops for motorhome like the Aires on the continent, I read somewhere that the Club’s only response was to wonder whether a discussion about whether this was a more appropriate thing for the Government rather than the Clubs to be considering.

CAMC is of course a commercial operator of full scale caravan sites and jolly good they are too but these cater primarily for people who want to stay for quite a number of days, like caravanners do, while lots of motorhomers (certainly on the Continent) make lots of use of more basic overnight parking, to stay for one or two nights only and then move on.  Some motorhomers do use their vehicles like caravans and stay on a Site for a while but lots more enjoys their holidays by keeping moving along.

For holidaying in this mode motorhomers don’t need a toilet block, resident staff and manicured grass around them every night; on most nights they don’t need much more than parking, a supply of drinking water, a drain for grey water and somewhere to empty the chemical toilet.  CAMC should be just as capable of building good Night Halt locations as it is at building full scale caravan sites - and operating them profitably.  There are lots of Aires on the continent which charge good money (and use barrier entry operated with credit cards etc) as well as the free ones provided (as a tourist facility and an attraction) by many local authorities.

There may be an argument for local authorities to build Aires as tourist attractions etc but there is also, quite separately, an argument for CAMC showing initiative in building a network of Aires in UK as a service to it’s Motorhome Members.  I think a network of CAMC Motorhome Nightstops would compliment the network of Club Sites and serve to promote them too - for example each Night Halt could easily display advertising material about nearby Club Sites.  And motorhomers who use Aires also tend to use full scale caravan sites periodically as well, for example to have a ‘laundry day”.

Isn’t someone on the Club’s staff or committees already thinking about this avenue of development - and if so can we hear something about their ideas?

 

Tinwheeler replied on 07/03/2019 15:59

Posted on 07/03/2019 15:48 by moulesy

Or Aldi/Lidl etc.....wink

But you tell me, PD, since the last MHer I asked swerved the question, what percentage of club MHers  (let alone MHers as a whole) would you estimate are wanting to tour the UK (for several weeks at a time) in the same way as on the continent?

Posted on 07/03/2019 15:59

I’ve been wondering, M, just who would use the aires/nighthalts over here because the advocates of them seem to do most of their touring over there.🤔

peedee replied on 07/03/2019 16:02

Posted on 07/03/2019 15:48 by moulesy

Or Aldi/Lidl etc.....wink

But you tell me, PD, since the last MHer I asked swerved the question, what percentage of club MHers  (let alone MHers as a whole) would you estimate are wanting to tour the UK (for several weeks at a time) in the same way as on the continent?

Posted on 07/03/2019 16:02

I haven't the faintest idea and I don't suppose the Club has either without surveying its motorhome members.

peedee

moulesy replied on 07/03/2019 16:07

Posted on 07/03/2019 16:02 by peedee

I haven't the faintest idea and I don't suppose the Club has either without surveying its motorhome members.

peedee

Posted on 07/03/2019 16:07

And surely that's the point? Until and unless some of the advocates for this sort of provision make the effort to do a bit of homework and gather any evidence of significant demand, nothing's going to change.

Maybe that's why the likes of Morris,  Haven et al haven't seen it as a bandwagon worth jumping on?

peedee replied on 07/03/2019 16:19

Posted on 07/03/2019 16:19

Maybe that's why the likes of Morris, Haven et al haven't seen it as a bandwagon worth jumping on?

These kind of businesses don't operate UK wide or are in the all swinging and dancing holiday park business.

A number of surveys have been tried on the motorhome forums, what response there has been has always come out in favour of night stops for motorhomes. I think Britstops is now in its 9th year of providing them and added 150 extra stops to its handbook this year.

If my estimate of only 30 percent of motorhomes owners are members of the the Club then that means the Club is failing to attract the majority to its fold which is why it changed its name in the first place.

At the risk of repeating what has been said by others and myself, the Club still has someway to go to make it attractive to the majority.

peedee

Tinwheeler replied on 07/03/2019 16:29

Posted on 07/03/2019 16:29

"These kind of businesses don't operate UK wide or are in the all swinging and dancing holiday park business."

Correction, they are in the business of making money so would jump at the chance of making a bit more profit if they thought nighthalts would provide it.

All power to Britstops. They’re meeting the need so why inappropriately try to involve this club?

'Swinging', really?😳

 

 

peedee replied on 07/03/2019 16:35

Posted on 07/03/2019 15:59 by Tinwheeler

I’ve been wondering, M, just who would use the aires/nighthalts over here because the advocates of them seem to do most of their touring over there.🤔

Posted on 07/03/2019 16:35

 That is because it is so much easier to tour over there and so it should be here, but it isn't and until the powers that be make it more attractive to do so I cannot see this changing.

peedee

moulesy replied on 07/03/2019 16:36

Posted on 07/03/2019 16:36

"If my estimate of only 30 percent of motorhomes owners are members of the the Club then that means the Club is failing to attract the majority to its fold which is why it changed its name in the first place."

 

Well there always seem to be plenty of (apparently) happy MHers on club sites whenever I use them, many on the serviced pitches. The real question, as far as this thread is concerned, is surely what proportion of the 30% wish to tour the UK (for weeks on end) in "the continental style"! 

peedee replied on 07/03/2019 16:41

Posted on 07/03/2019 16:41

so why inappropriately try to involve this club?

Nothing inappropiate about expressing an opinion which as a current member I am perfectly entiled to do.

peedee

Tinwheeler replied on 07/03/2019 16:52

Posted on 07/03/2019 16:41 by peedee

so why inappropriately try to involve this club?

Nothing inappropiate about expressing an opinion which as a current member I am perfectly entiled to do.

peedee

Posted on 07/03/2019 16:52

Of course you are, PD, as long as you remember it is only your opinion and the club consists mainly of caravanners who would be excluded from any such provision by the club so would probably walk away thus decreasing member numbers and leaving sites half empty. There you go, you’d then be able to convert the 'proper' club sites into cheap aires. Job done!

Navigateur replied on 07/03/2019 17:05

Posted on 07/03/2019 17:05

estimate of only 30 percent of motorhomes owners are members of the the Club

I wonder what the percentage of people who own trailer caravans are members of this Club?

The manufacturers year on year publish figure for sales of new caravans, both trailer and motorised, but nowhere does there seem to be any figures for the number taken out of service each year.  We can't even rely on vehicle registration figures for motor caravans, though they do reflect the number entitled to be on the road, as I guess once it is not economic to to keep going with repairs for MOT tests there may still be many useful years left as a static somewhere.

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