Customer Focus

Steve Welsh replied on 22/11/2017 17:21

Posted on 22/11/2017 17:21

I have used quite a few club sites this year and have received some warm welcomes, however the norm seems to be that there is very little custom focus. That is wardens, not all of them, don’t seem to see members as customers. This week was the final straw as far as attitude is concerned. We arrived at the site half an hour before check in time, as we thought it would take us longer to get there but wanted to be on site a.s.a.p and off into town so no problem sitting in the van for half an hour. Well the warden was straight out saying “your too early you need to go park up along the road in the pay and display until 12” we told him we were happy sitting in the van but he was not allowing this, even though we were not blocking entry for others. Anyway we did as we were told, along with another van five minutes later who joined us in the car park. We returned for 12 to find that we were at the back of a que of about six and again instructions from the warden, this time to remain in the van until he told us we can go to the office.

I really think the club wardens need to think about who is paying their salaries and the club needs to think about bringing its customer focus trading up to date.

DavidKlyne replied on 23/11/2017 10:12

Posted on 23/11/2017 08:05 by eurortraveller

Let me quote you how an award winning site, family owned here in Cornwall for the last 50 years, words it..

"0ur security barriers are open from 0630 until midnight ..between those hours you can park on our visitors car park and walk to your pitch....you are welcome to check in at reception from 9am. on the day you arrive and we aim to have all pitches prepared for you to pitch up  by 12 noon at the latest.... If you decide to travel overnight to beat the traffic and arrive in the small hours of the morning simply pull into our late night arrivals area on the left...etc"

And of course you can book the sort of pitch you want, or the actual pitch you want, or the pitch they have remembered you had last time, or two pitches together for friends.

That's customer focus.

Posted on 23/11/2017 10:12

I am not sure what this has to do with this thread? As members we book Club sites knowing the conditions and one of those is arrival time. If we don't agree with those conditions we go elsewhere. My experience of commercial sites is that most of them have same sort of conditions, if not more stringent, than CMC sites. So quoting one individual site in far away Cornwall which if previous comments are to be believed will only be full in the peak season is not really very helpful.

David

Spriddler replied on 23/11/2017 10:17

Posted on 22/11/2017 17:30 by huskydog

The question is ,if you arrived at the cinema 1/2 hour early would you expect them to start the film for you wink

Posted on 23/11/2017 10:17

West Ham F.C. are very customer-focused. When I phoned their ticket office to ask the time of kick-off the chap said: 'What time can you get here?'

Spriddler replied on 23/11/2017 10:29

Posted on 23/11/2017 10:29

Knowing that I was early (you mention a 'van' which could be a m/home as I doubt that a pay and display car park would be suitable for an outfit) I'd probably have gone into town first and arrived later at the site.

eurortraveller replied on 23/11/2017 10:47

Posted on 23/11/2017 10:12 by DavidKlyne

I am not sure what this has to do with this thread? As members we book Club sites knowing the conditions and one of those is arrival time. If we don't agree with those conditions we go elsewhere. My experience of commercial sites is that most of them have same sort of conditions, if not more stringent, than CMC sites. So quoting one individual site in far away Cornwall which if previous comments are to be believed will only be full in the peak season is not really very helpful.

David

Posted on 23/11/2017 10:47

DK, The OP was about customer focus. . Telling a customer to go away and come back later is from the Basil Fawlty manual of management . 

This Club can learn from good commercial business practice - you must know that from your own retail industry experience. Your company would never have treated the OP like that. 

Navigateur replied on 23/11/2017 10:52

Posted on 23/11/2017 10:52

I have noticed on a few sites that the "free space" at the arrival and reception area is somewhat limited and is actually used for a number of purposes other than accomodating over-early arrivals.  Perhaps the OP was correctly told to go away as they were interfering with one of these activities, such as space for a delivery lorry to turn, or for the skip lorry to back in to collect rubbish?

It is noon, or 1:00pm, for a reason - not just to keep members waiting in line.

Randomcamper replied on 23/11/2017 12:41

Posted on 23/11/2017 10:47 by eurortraveller

DK, The OP was about customer focus. . Telling a customer to go away and come back later is from the Basil Fawlty manual of management . 

This Club can learn from good commercial business practice - you must know that from your own retail industry experience. Your company would never have treated the OP like that. 

Posted on 23/11/2017 12:41

Selective choice of examples me thinks.......wink

If I arrive too early for my flight, I first of all get charged extra for car parking, then get no further towards the plane than the shops....

No early entry to the cinema.....

Or West Ham FC...........(who...wink)

Stop making apologies for someone trying to blag their way onto a club site first to grab the best pitch......wink

mbee1 replied on 23/11/2017 13:27

Posted on 23/11/2017 13:27

I have great respect for wardens but sometimes they can appear to be a bit "officious".  We were on a club site recently and our daughter came out to see us just for the day.  She parked in the car park and I went to meet her with the dog but the warden was straight out of the office saying "book in your reg number at the office".  Not a please or thank you and said in an "off hand" sort of way.

Wardens are the face of Club and we're customers but some of them are lacking in the customer service department when it comes to skills.

 

replied on 23/11/2017 13:37

Posted on 23/11/2017 12:41 by Randomcamper

Selective choice of examples me thinks.......wink

If I arrive too early for my flight, I first of all get charged extra for car parking, then get no further towards the plane than the shops....

No early entry to the cinema.....

Or West Ham FC...........(who...wink)

Stop making apologies for someone trying to blag their way onto a club site first to grab the best pitch......wink

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mbee1 replied on 23/11/2017 14:18

Posted on 23/11/2017 09:13 by SteveL

Surely the point is that their blurb clearly states that provision has been made, so anyone arriving early would expect to be able to park up and wait.

Conversly the CAMC emails I receive clearly state the earliest arrival time. Some even include additional information,  like there is very limited space in the entrance area. That being the case it is hardly fair to blame the warden if you arrive 30 minutes before and are turned away.

Posted on 23/11/2017 14:18

I totally agree and we never arrive early, choosing to park in a layby somewhere en route if that's a possibility.  As I've already alluded to, it isn't necessarily what they say but the way they say it. Politeness doesn't cost anything.  Most long standing members know the rules but sometimes the rules can be inflexible.

The OP knew he was early and couldn't check in so was happy to wait.  Why ask him to move particularly if he wasn't in the way.  If he was in the way then, quite rightly, he should have moved, but he wasn't doing any harm. All clubs have to have rules but sometimes a bit of give and take on all sides makes your stay much better.  

I stayed on a small site this year where there was a notice on the office door;

"if the office is closed and you have a reservation you'll find a named envelope stuck to the notice board with pitching instructions.  Come back and pay when the office opens"

"If you don't have a reservation please find an empty pitch and come back and see us when the office is open".

It's a bit like the "no arrivals after 8pm" rule.  Does it matter if there isn't a barrier and you have a booking?  You know whether you've booked a blue, white or red peg so why not turn up anytime up to (say) 11pm, pitch and pay the following day? it isn't something I'd do particularly but I'm sure some members would.

JVB66 replied on 23/11/2017 14:32

Posted on 23/11/2017 09:59 by eurortraveller

Well, apart from the fact the stated arrival time at Hillhead is different, the barrier opening hours are different, the reception hours are different, the toilet closing hours are different, the welcome and space for arrivals during the night are different, and the ability to book a hard standing pitch or a pair of pitches together are different....almost identical as you say, JVB. 

Posted on 23/11/2017 14:32

You have been to Hillhead then? as that is not what we found on our numerous trips to Hillhead very customer orientated

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