How does this Club compare with the ‘Other’?

rogher replied on 12/12/2015 17:25

Posted on 12/12/2015 17:25

I’ve started this discussion to try and collect together any direct comparisons between CC and C&CC.

One mentioned several times is that C&CC charge deposits with bookings, whereas CC does not. In that same discussion, it was mentioned that the C&CC membership was larger than CC’s, which surprised me. Can anyone provide the stats?

What other factual differences can be identified?

SteveL replied on 16/12/2015 14:52

Posted on 16/12/2015 14:52

BB I did not say it was a hindrance. What I did say was that we could have to cancel at short notice and the current system allows this easily. Generally we are booking somewhere else, so there is no loss to the CC. As you are very fond of pointing out the CC product is fairly expensive. However, it is at a price that myself and lots of others are prepared to pay. Is it so wrong to expect certain fringe benifits when your paying top dollar.

moulesy replied on 16/12/2015 15:01

Posted on 16/12/2015 15:01

Surely this whole matter of deposits is a red herring? The club have said many times that late cancellations and no-shows have decreased since deposits were dropped. So why would they re-introduce them?

I do agree that the cancellation period is too short, 7 days would be better in my opinion, but aagain presumably there must have been some rationale behind the 3 day timespan.

A simple alternative to deposits has been suggested - inconveniences no-one other than those who might have to cough up because they cancel late or don't show. Seems a simple enough solution to me. Happy. Use left and right arrows to navigate.

fur ball replied on 16/12/2015 15:14

Posted on 16/12/2015 15:14

I'd be interested Steve where you would spend your money elsewhere and not pay a deposit. Even the few cl sites I have used required deposits and commercial certainly do  and I understand and surport this. I have had several conversations with members who admit to booking up weekends and holidays at there favorite haunts knowing that they will cancel a good proportion of them. One couple said they wouldn't be able to afford every booking they made but as they could choose the best weekend for them nearer the time at no cost or penalty they used it to there advantage. I am a member of both clubs, I like both  but if I'm honest if I had to choose one I think I'd go friendly

SteveL replied on 16/12/2015 15:17

Posted on 16/12/2015 15:17

 

A simple alternative to deposits has been suggested - inconveniences no-one other than those who might have to cough up because they cancel late or don't show. Seems a simple enough solution to me. Happy. Use left and right arrows to navigate.

If we are talking about registering a credit card, I can't say I am that keen. OK details would be kept separately but recent events with the web site do not fill me with confidence.

SteveL replied on 16/12/2015 15:23

Posted on 16/12/2015 15:23

I'd be interested Steve where you would spend your money elsewhere and not pay a deposit. Even the few cl sites I have used required deposits and commercial certainly do  and I understand and surport this. I have had several conversations with members who admit to booking up weekends and holidays at there favorite haunts knowing that they will cancel a good proportion of them. One couple said they wouldn't be able to afford every booking they made but as they could choose the best weekend for them nearer the time at no cost or penalty they used it to there advantage. I am a member of both clubs, I like both  but if I'm honest if I had to choose one I think I'd go friendly

Sorry perhaps I did not put it very well. What I meant was if the CC started charging deposits, it would loose it edge as far as I was concerned. I did not mean I could find anywhere else that didn't, but rather that if I had to pay a deposit I would book elsewhere as well as the CC.

MichaelT replied on 16/12/2015 15:38

Posted on 16/12/2015 15:38

BB Do yo have to pay a deposit for every site you visit in Europe?  I suspect not then why should we have it here?  for me it is one of the differnces between the clubs and puts me off booking with the other one.

However I will say that some weekends we ahve gone away last minute and just looked at what was available have been the best ones, no expectations and these we have booked through the other club mostly.

I do however object to their policy of allocating a pitch and have never been offered an alternative so thats another plus for the CC in our books, Oh and beleive it or not I find the CC booking system much easier to use and understand, the pricing policy on the other site is useless and is a pop up box instead of a price on the page of the site, so confusing but at least there you can book a hard standing pitch.

MichaelT replied on 16/12/2015 15:48

Posted on 16/12/2015 15:48

It’s also interesting that the C&CC appears to have fewer sites for more members, fewer site nights sold, and yet makes more profit.

Can anyone confirm the numbers?

At a last check they owned about 100 sites but this is supplemented by the Forest sites which they now manage and if my memory serves me correctly, now have a finacial interest in. Dividing the subscription income by the average membership fee gives about 250,000 members which is about 100,000 less than that of the CC.

Their web site is definitely better managed and they have in my opinion lead the CC in the use of technology although they have not always got the user interface right. Shame they don't have a forum, I'm not too keen on facebook as a medium for exchange of ideas and debates although the C&CC appear to be quite responsive to posts on their FB page.

peedee

p.s. there are 20 forest sites so they have about 120 sites

The C&CC is now introducing a forum...Myself and a few other members, along with staff, have been testing the Beta site for a couple of months now. Several testers are not happy with the forum layout (including myself), but it has now been signed off by the Comms Committee and should be going live in the next couple of weeks (Will be advertised on main C&CC site etc). I also understand it will be 'soft launched' this week. Unlike this forum, the C&CC forum is a basic message board type layout....but having said that, I believe the C&CC forum architecture will develop in the future..

Write your comments here...looks like its alread up and running https://forum.campingandcaravanningclub.co.uk/

 

DavidKlyne replied on 16/12/2015 15:59

Posted on 16/12/2015 15:59

I see it is on line to members now, I'm just haveing a look at it. I have noticed it has private messaging and lots and lots of sections.

Do a C&CC search for "Members Forum" to fiind it

peedee

Peedee

I have searched for the forum and gone to the Club's website but I can't find anything, have you got a direct link?

Thanks

David

MichaelT replied on 16/12/2015 16:01

Posted on 16/12/2015 16:01

I see it is on line to members now, I'm just haveing a look at it. I have noticed it has private messaging and lots and lots of sections.

Do a C&CC search for "Members Forum" to fiind it

peedee

Peedee

I have searched for the forum and gone to the Club's website but I can't find anything, have you got a direct link?

Thanks

David

Write your comments here...its above David but is seems ot be worse than this one to use, I keep getting errors.

https://forum.campingandcaravanningclub.co.uk/

 

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