The same Club, just better...

RochelleCC replied on 21/02/2017 08:40

Posted on 21/02/2017 08:40

Welcome to the Caravan and Motorhome Club.

Ever since we came together as a group of outdoor enthusiasts 110 years ago, our Club has continued on a journey of discovery. It's time for us to make some changes for the better by redefining who we are to help you get the most of the great outdoors.

I’m sure you all have lots of questions, please post your feedback and queries in this thread.

 

What does our new logo mean? We created a video to explain how we created it:

Find out more at www.camc.com/discover

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 22/02/2017 08:42

Posted on 22/02/2017 08:37 by yellowbelly3

What on earth are you doing, introducing what looks like a grammatically incorrect motto?

"Open your doors on great"

????

Great what?  It makes me want to change the spelling to "grate", because that's what it does to me when I read it.

Posted on 22/02/2017 08:42

Great has more than one meaning Y3-

great
ɡreɪt/
adjective
1.
of an extent, amount, or intensity considerably above average.
"the article was of great interest"
synonyms: considerable, substantial, pronounced, sizeable, significant, appreciable, serious, exceptional, inordinate, extraordinary, special More
2.
of ability, quality, or eminence considerably above average.
"the great Italian conductor"
synonyms: prominent, eminent, pre-eminent, important, distinguished, august, illustrious, noble; More
noun
1.
an important or distinguished person.
"the Beatles, Bob Dylan, all the greats"
2.
another term for Literae Humaniores.
adverbinformal
1.
very well; excellently.
"we played awful, they played great"
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David2115 replied on 22/02/2017 08:46

Posted on 22/02/2017 08:46

There are not many positive comments on here which is a shame but I guess that represents the type of people that are more likely to go on to a forum to moan rather than be positive. Very few people use this forum so it could be argued the silent majority are in favour of the change.

well done caravan club in your attempt to move forward into 21st century I say 

pegwr33 replied on 22/02/2017 08:50

Posted on 22/02/2017 08:50

 It has just occurred to me, what is the cost of all this?  The last change from dark green to light green signage at all Club Sites was not so long ago, so another re-brand is going to be yet another charge on us the members.  As I have said in a previous post, we are all members of "THE CARAVAN CLUB" regardless of outfit used and it is known and recognized not only by caravanners but by industry and media alike. The change just seems to be yet another trendy exercise for the sake of it. I'm not impressed!

ChemicalJasper replied on 22/02/2017 08:53

Posted on 22/02/2017 08:53

Sorry, but I have to agree with most of the negative comments!

1. What a waste of money!

2. Why destroy 100 years of heritage and brand identification.

3. Why not spend this money on addressing the ACTUAL benefits for members, improving facilities.

Can't say the logo reaches out to me in any way!

....this is the sort of thing that I find frustrating, when I'm paying good money to a club who's services I'm already struggling to use due to sites I want to use regularly being fully booked, wasting my money on unnecessary changes, when they should be investing it in more network capacity!

frown

pegwr33 replied on 22/02/2017 08:53

Posted on 22/02/2017 08:46 by David2115

There are not many positive comments on here which is a shame but I guess that represents the type of people that are more likely to go on to a forum to moan rather than be positive. Very few people use this forum so it could be argued the silent majority are in favour of the change.

well done caravan club in your attempt to move forward into 21st century I say 

Posted on 22/02/2017 08:53

There are not many positive comments David, because the majority of members don't feel it is necessary to make a change. If asking for democratic vote of all members is moaning, I resent it. As a members club, all members should have a say in how it is run especially on such a big issue as this, not decided by a few people.

DavidKlyne replied on 22/02/2017 08:57

Posted on 22/02/2017 08:57

I had to attend a funeral in Southampton yesterday so missed all the fun and quite honestly can't be bothered to read through 500 plus posts if the sample which I have read so far is anything to go by.

I welcome the change of name as it is more inclusive although the proof of that inclusivity will be how we see facilities for motorhomes on sites improved in the immediate to near future, waste disposal points being one which should be treated as a priority.

In terms of costs it will be expensive but for such a big change that has to be expected. I like to think of the Club as a professional organisation and if you are going to embark on such a change it can't be done on the cheap and I expect it has to be done upfront rather than spread over a period of time so the message gets across clearly. 

I also don't understand this silly argument about whether it is a motorhome of a motor caravan. As far as I know motor caravan is a term that is hardly ever used. The likes of Swift, Bailey and Auto-Trail make motorhomes. The longest running motorhome magazine is called Motorhome Monthly so it is a complete red herring to question the name used by the Club.

Whilst it's good to see so many new members contributing to this discussion I do find it disappointing that so many first time posters seem to use the opportunity to complain rather than being positive or objective in their comments. Club Together is meant to be a community of members to share and acquire knowledge and provide feedback not just a place to complain. 

Whilst I might have a nostalgic attachment towards the old Club name  I am equally convinced that changing the name to the Caravan and Motorhome Club is the right decision. It will be costly but it is the right decision.

David

Simon100 replied on 22/02/2017 09:01

Posted on 22/02/2017 09:01

SteveL. I don't think that the club discourages anyone from joining and I am sure that it would love to have members from all backgrounds.

My concern is that none of the images used in the relaunch reflect people from different heritages and the ethnic makeup of the population of the UK. 

Look at any adverts, or other PR output in papers or on the TV, and you will see images and characters reflecting the diverse nature of our society. Why not the CC?

JohnM20 replied on 22/02/2017 09:08

Posted on 22/02/2017 08:46 by David2115

There are not many positive comments on here which is a shame but I guess that represents the type of people that are more likely to go on to a forum to moan rather than be positive. Very few people use this forum so it could be argued the silent majority are in favour of the change.

well done caravan club in your attempt to move forward into 21st century I say 

Posted on 22/02/2017 09:08

There are many replies on this thread from members that I have never seen on the forum previously. They obviously read CT but don't often write on it but now feel so strongly about the issue that they have now done so. The vast majority of the complaints are about the enormous cost involved in the rebranding exercise. Money that should have been spent on keeping sites open, refurbishment and getting a fairer booking system. There is no point in attracting new members when the club can't cater for those that they already have.

Personally I don't have any issues at all with motor caravans but my gut feeling is that they are not here to stay in the long haul. It seems to me that it is the generation that are in their 50s, 60s and 70s that are buying them as they/we are perhaps the most affluent generation ever. But even we will not live forever. I don't believe the younger generation, generally, are, or will be, in a position to pay out the sort of money that motor caravans cost. It would be interesting to know the actual demographics of motor caravan purchasers to see if my gut instinct is correct and whether the club's claim that 40% of new members own a motor caravan continues over the next few years.

MichaelT replied on 22/02/2017 09:09

Posted on 22/02/2017 08:57 by DavidKlyne

I had to attend a funeral in Southampton yesterday so missed all the fun and quite honestly can't be bothered to read through 500 plus posts if the sample which I have read so far is anything to go by.

I welcome the change of name as it is more inclusive although the proof of that inclusivity will be how we see facilities for motorhomes on sites improved in the immediate to near future, waste disposal points being one which should be treated as a priority.

In terms of costs it will be expensive but for such a big change that has to be expected. I like to think of the Club as a professional organisation and if you are going to embark on such a change it can't be done on the cheap and I expect it has to be done upfront rather than spread over a period of time so the message gets across clearly. 

I also don't understand this silly argument about whether it is a motorhome of a motor caravan. As far as I know motor caravan is a term that is hardly ever used. The likes of Swift, Bailey and Auto-Trail make motorhomes. The longest running motorhome magazine is called Motorhome Monthly so it is a complete red herring to question the name used by the Club.

Whilst it's good to see so many new members contributing to this discussion I do find it disappointing that so many first time posters seem to use the opportunity to complain rather than being positive or objective in their comments. Club Together is meant to be a community of members to share and acquire knowledge and provide feedback not just a place to complain. 

Whilst I might have a nostalgic attachment towards the old Club name  I am equally convinced that changing the name to the Caravan and Motorhome Club is the right decision. It will be costly but it is the right decision.

David

Posted on 22/02/2017 09:09

Well said David.  Like you I cant be asked to wade through all this negative drivel.  The club needs to move forwards and yes its only a name and logo but it does more represent the outfits on site and the MH facilities do need upgrading ASAP on most sites.  All the new posters on here it is a shame they cannot be positive, embrace the change and move on, the cost of rebranding is not that high compared to income and who knows it may tempt some younger blood into the club rather than the dinosaurs who seem to have crawled out of the woodwork on here.,  I personally though the old logo was terrible and the name has been changed over the years before becoming the Caravan Club  so what's the big deal.

Accept it, move on and lets hope the club goes from strength to strength.

Lawrie W replied on 22/02/2017 09:12

Posted on 22/02/2017 09:12

We ought to move with the times is a fatuous comment and the bolt hole of everyone who wants change for change sake.  Let's just concentrate on what we do do and not initiate a distraction from the true purpose of the club.

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