Refillable Gas Systems

Pippah45 replied on 08/08/2017 15:09

Posted on 08/08/2017 15:09

Ok here goes - being a Safefill owner that is the one I know most about and I like it because I can see the level of gas - it is lightweight and the saving over the price of Calorlite is substantial if you are a heavy user.  It makes even more sense to use a refillable if you are going across the water as you can refill there - whereas Calor is not obtainable (not anywhere I have been anyway).  There were three sizes but the grapevine said the smallest has been discontinued. 

There is also Gaslow which until I saw a recent post I thought was a permanent fixed refillable probably more convenient for a Motorhomer, but I see they have free standing cylinders too.  When I looked at Gaslow it appeared to be far more expensive to set up for a caravanner than Safefill - but I could have been looking in the wrong place. 

Gasit - is another I believe but I know nothing about it. 

replied on 01/04/2018 19:51

Posted on 01/04/2018 19:27 by DaveCyn

No problem.

To the best of my knowledge its a mix of propane & butane.

I stand to be corrected by those with more technical knowledge of the mix.

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Wherenext replied on 01/04/2018 20:52

Posted on 01/04/2018 20:52

 Thanks DD, very interesting.

Can you just take a refillable to any station abroad or does it vary from country to country?

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Merve replied on 02/04/2018 09:58

Posted on 01/04/2018 18:47 by DaveCyn

Merve, do you have inside knowledge of a huge shift in Morrison's policy?

Last I heard they had introduced a policy of refusing to fill ANY refillable LPG system including those fully fitted to Motorhomes/Caravans. 

It appears that systems like Gaslow & Gas It are to be refused as well as Safefill.

 

I do hope I heard wrong & somebody can enlighten me as to the current situation.

Posted on 02/04/2018 09:58

I think I know more than most. All I can say at the moment is that Safefill are working very hard to bring Safefill into the ‘mainstream ‘ Let’s put it this way, I am confident that Safefill will emerge a main player together with other refillable systems in the next year or two. One has to understand that the history of the LPG cylinder has not been covered in glory due to idiots refilling cylinders that were never made for refilling! When a gas cylinder (Calor) is spinning around on a garage forecourt and causes the garage to close operations- that sort of thing is massively damaging to us, the genuine leisure user who have bought their refillable cylinders in good faith and fill them correctly. Add to that that large businesses take forever to check things out where safety is concerned (after all it is their business) and we have a blockage in the system. Don’t forget that with Coshh, risk assessment, method statements, blocking tactics  and goodness knows what else, it all takes time. Never mind that Safefill have been and done all this work - these businesses want to do their own and I can understand that for the reasons I gave above. I am entering my 5th year with Safefill and I am more confident than ever that the market will open up and refilling will become far easier. On the comment regarding Safefill and the database- again, I would advise people to use MyLPG.eu as indeed Safefill does-  When you look up a refill point be it a service station or whatever. It will tell you whether it’s a Safefill friendly site under the title. Over and above that, there is a facility on there for us to ‘confirm’ the station. In other words we can inform each other- ‘yes, this station exists and it’s this price as I went there yesterday ‘ I think that is really useful- we can help one another. So, for me, the future for Safefill is bright - a good product can’t be killed- demand will keep it alive. Hope this helps. 

onepjg replied on 02/04/2018 11:21

Posted on 02/04/2018 11:21

I would happily use Safefill, and would happily pay the setup costs, however...... until Safefill is available in several confirmed places in my area, I shan’t be changing over. Personally I have no real confidence in their long term future at this point, and to part with the money until I’m convinced would be mad

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Tinwheeler replied on 02/04/2018 12:39

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Is this thread about Safefill or Refillable Gas Systems as the title suggests.  If the latter then can we keep it that way otherwise it is nothing more than an advertising platform for the former.  

Posted on 02/04/2018 12:39

One could easily believe there to be a vested interest in the former, DD.

catherinef replied on 02/04/2018 16:23

Posted on 02/04/2018 16:23

I'm like Oneputt, I invested in the safefill cylinder and have no experience of the other systems, although I do understand others are available but I chose not to purchase them for a couple of reasons.  The gaslow refillable as far as I could tell wasn't lightweight.  The gaslight cylinder appears identical to that from Safefill but it doesn't appear to be very well supported, indeed I found it difficult to even locate at first on the internet.

I'm happy with the choice I've made, I do recommend them to others and I've been very happy when I recently required assistance from them and received phone calls as promised from their Director.  

 

 

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