Morrison’s now accepting Safefill

Merve replied on 21/07/2018 08:52

Posted on 21/07/2018 08:52

Hi everyone. A tweet from Kirsty at Morrisons confirms that they are on board with Safefill. Filling is now allowed at all their sites. Show the cylinder to the cashier and away you go. This is great news for those who use gas and want to save money.

Congratulations to Safefill for your dogged determination to bring this product to market against overwhelming odds! The first crack has appeared in the dam! Thanks to all those who wrote to Morrison’s to ask why they couldn’t fill and thanks to Morrison’s for approaching this with an open and enquiring mind to cut through the rumours lies and propaganda surrounding this exceptional product. It is a better world today for the LPG user.

replied on 04/08/2018 20:42

Posted on 04/08/2018 17:43 by Merve

Ocsid. I am mortified! Having not checked the thread for over 24hrs because of 6 grandkids running me into the ground - the comment 'Here we go again' was in no way directed at you. It was directed at those who had already covered the point earlier in the thread and I found myself going over it again - so if you thought I was getting at you, I wasnt and I was merely trying to  reassure you that the retesting of cylinders wasnt applicable to Leisure Cylinders so please accept my apologies if I mistakenly caused you any anxiety.

I see now though that the attack is no longer on whether Morrisons are on board with Safefill, I think Johnny has nailed that with his last post which it would appear anyone could have got hold of if they had wanted to-  and it will definitely be put to bed when I reproduce the Official Statement from the company,-  no, its now we are sitting on a timebomb!! and talking about 5 yrs when Safefill themselves have said 10 years and thats only advisory! what utter tosh if I may say without being abusive, is it really being suggested that these things are suddenly going to explode or could suddenly explode? again, we see the lack of knowledge regarding the material used for the cylinders and all the safety and explosive tests these things have been through. Its almost anything to frighten people- particularly newbies off buying a Safeill and it isnt right!!!  Any form of attack against Safefill has been used on this thread and now we have entered the world of make believe. I thank Fysherman for his kind comments regarding my character. I am not one that comes onto this forum with a bunch of half cocked and flawed tales. He and I hope others have got to know that over the years, I will always, if a genuine mistake has been made, retract the comment and apologise, Im not too big for that!  The information I give is , as far as I can research it, truthful and factual, as indeed has now been proved from that OP so so long ago! The information I give about Safefill will always be spot on. I hope that we can all get some sleep now and not worry that the front end of our vans are going to be missing in the morning having been taken out by a cylinder! I take it Fysh that when you said they were built like tanks you were referring the the military type? because yes they're built like.......Tanks!tongue-out

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Merve replied on 05/08/2018 09:19

Posted on 04/08/2018 20:42 by

no, its now we are sitting on a timebomb!! and talking about 5 yrs when Safefill themselves have said 10 years and thats only advisory! 

Merve, back in the 90’s early 2000’s I worked at a Government establishment that developed the method of spinning high pressure vessels from various fibres and materials.  I can confidently say I have forgotten more about the construction of such “tanks” than most will know.  The technology we developed for extreme military use was fed into industry and is now widely used.  If the legal advice is that tank made from composite materials should be checked after only five years then it is for a very good reason.  As you have repeated many times the Safefill advice of 10 years is only advisory and you think it has no weight in law. 

Posted on 05/08/2018 09:19

DD. Why dont you just ring Safefill and put your concerns to them? The regulations that are in place do not apply to Leisure cylinders. Thats it! Thats the way it is. I dont know why that is but it is! You may disagree, you may be scandalised but it still remains that Leisure cylinders are not included within the terms of the legislation. One can have a leisure cylinder for 30 yrs and never have it tested! Its not my fault so dont keep going on at me with this pointless exercise. I can't help you! Ring the people involved in drawing up the legislation and complain - whoever they are (good luck with that one)  - put your mind at rest. You refused to believe me when I said Morrisons were on board with Safefill until it was an undeniable fact and took the opportunity to accuse me me advertising for goodness sake and now you have started on another crusade. This thread was started to inform Newbies and others that Morrisons had accepted Safefill which I took to be good news,and thought it would just involve a few comments about thanks for the info -  and yet it has turned into a full and in your face debate about advertising, Red Guide, UKLPG Sht 26,  testing of bottles, sitting on timebombs - Why I wonder? Just be glad for Safefill users that many more outlets have come online for them. If something similar for fixed system users happened I would be pleased for them. -Thank you.

Tinwheeler replied on 05/08/2018 09:28

Posted on 05/08/2018 09:28

Out of interest, can anyone define what a leisure cylinder is? A gas cylinder is a gas cylinder and no on can know what it’s intended use is. 

Merve replied on 05/08/2018 09:29

Posted on 04/08/2018 20:08 by Oneputt

Thanks Johnny I will print a copy for future reference.

 

Posted on 05/08/2018 09:29

A most sensible and prudent move. The sort of comment I thought might be generated by this news. I have done the same oneputt so I can carry the information with me. That should stop any confusion.

Merve replied on 05/08/2018 09:35

Posted on 05/08/2018 09:28 by Tinwheeler

Out of interest, can anyone define what a leisure cylinder is? A gas cylinder is a gas cylinder and no on can know what it’s intended use is. 

Posted on 05/08/2018 09:35

I think - only think mind you, that It is dictated by size. If its over a certain litreage it comes under the testing legislation. No, I dont know the limit but like everyone, I can find out.- good question though TW

Tinwheeler replied on 05/08/2018 10:02

Posted on 05/08/2018 10:02

Cheers, Merve.

I’m sure we’ve all seen tarmac boilers and so on using the same size bottles as we use whilst static holiday caravans used for leisure have the tall bottles. An enigma. 🤔

ocsid replied on 05/08/2018 10:02

Posted on 05/08/2018 10:02

It would be interesting to know if "leisure" in this context  involves use where the leisure facility is hired out?

Whilst still being surprised at being told there is no regulations re testing or the time scale in our private use, to transfer this lack of regulation across to the whole "leisure" market where people are paying say to hire a cabin, astounds me further.

Merve replied on 05/08/2018 10:33

Posted on 05/08/2018 10:02 by Tinwheeler

Cheers, Merve.

I’m sure we’ve all seen tarmac boilers and so on using the same size bottles as we use whilst static holiday caravans used for leisure have the tall bottles. An enigma. 🤔

Posted on 05/08/2018 10:33

Yes, but the point here TW is that the 47kg cylinders would not be classed as 'Leisure Cylinders' and therefore would be subject to the 10 or 15 year inpection.

Merve replied on 05/08/2018 10:38

Posted on 05/08/2018 10:02 by ocsid

It would be interesting to know if "leisure" in this context  involves use where the leisure facility is hired out?

Whilst still being surprised at being told there is no regulations re testing or the time scale in our private use, to transfer this lack of regulation across to the whole "leisure" market where people are paying say to hire a cabin, astounds me further.

Posted on 05/08/2018 10:38

Again Ocsid, it would depend on the size of cylider being used. I imagine that the 'leisure facility' would use the most economical cyliders available which would be the 47kg size - they are subject to the testing not only by size but also because they are 'commercial' cylinders. you may be at leisure be the company supplying your cylinders isnt.

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