How to thrive on a non 240v site!

Merve replied on 16/01/2017 17:56

Posted on 16/01/2017 17:56

Due to difficulties migrating the original thread, which was massively interesting and popular with members, I am starting another one until the original can be found and  migrated to the Forum.  I apologise to the original OP but I think this is far too important not to be available. Personally, I think, because of the massive moves in technology recently, this subject should have a section by itself. I don't suppose the CC would think about that? So, anything about Solar Panels, LED lighting, Inverters, Safefill even. Anything that assists the caravanners to go off grid in fact - and saves money!!

replied on 07/10/2017 07:41

Posted on 06/10/2017 14:53 by Fysherman

It's a matter of opinion as to its relevancy. The club must recognise there is a diverse membership just as the C&CC have.

To many, the CC are missing a trick by not embracing the fact that technology has moved on and that not everyone wants or needs to be hooked up all the time. 

 

Posted on 07/10/2017 07:41

plus ça change!

25 Years ago (and later) Heating and Fridge on gas - electric from battery (plugged into back of car often).

Now 'technology has moved on' Heating and Fridge on gas electric -from battery.

It seemed to me that back then gas was relatively cheaper and much more used than now.

Merve replied on 07/10/2017 09:47

Posted on 07/10/2017 09:47

I see on Google that the Toshiba Corporation has developed a new battery! The new battery uses titanium niobium oxide electrodes apparently! They are saying that the new batteries, which they hope to commercialise in 2019, will give a 200 mile range but, and this is the game changer, can be recharged in 6 minutes!! The new material does away with the dangers of short circuiting as in Lithium for instance and over heating during powerful recharging. With 90% of its capacity retained even after 5000 cycles it looks like this battery is destined for further development. .... do they do them in 110ah version? πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

Merve replied on 07/10/2017 09:51

Posted on 06/10/2017 23:36 by Dick Dastardly

LOL Merve - I know what you mean.  There is more greenery at my local Asda car park than in the Bridlington site photo!

Posted on 07/10/2017 09:51

Road markings, curbs- they must miss the traffic lights and brick walls! ....and they’ve paid good money for that! 

KenofKent replied on 07/10/2017 10:22

Posted on 07/10/2017 09:51 by Merve

Road markings, curbs- they must miss the traffic lights and brick walls! ....and they’ve paid good money for that! 

Posted on 07/10/2017 10:22

I don’t like the way pitches are squashed in around the service points with very little effort to screen them. It does make me wonder if the site designer has ever used a site. It may be just the angle of the picture or am I being generous.

Fysherman replied on 07/10/2017 11:36

Posted on 07/10/2017 09:47 by Merve

I see on Google that the Toshiba Corporation has developed a new battery! The new battery uses titanium niobium oxide electrodes apparently! They are saying that the new batteries, which they hope to commercialise in 2019, will give a 200 mile range but, and this is the game changer, can be recharged in 6 minutes!! The new material does away with the dangers of short circuiting as in Lithium for instance and over heating during powerful recharging. With 90% of its capacity retained even after 5000 cycles it looks like this battery is destined for further development. .... do they do them in 110ah version? πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

Posted on 07/10/2017 11:36

Hi Merve, Hope you are well.

This is exactly why I don't believe all the hype about pure electric vehicles. Who is going to throw thousands of hard earned pounds at current (sorry) electric vehicles with new technology always just around the corner that will render their purchase worthless.This is what will stop pure electric vehicles from ever becoming mainstream,

I see that the current (done it again sorry) Nissan Leaf is the UK's fastest depreciating vehicle. Bet their owners are not rushing to buy another one. 

brue replied on 07/10/2017 12:52

Posted on 07/10/2017 12:52

Well we have bought an electric car and it's fine laughing It won't be as worthless as some cars will be. I believe the next development is with hydrogen fuel and also air batteries, but I think people are waiting for something that will tow well. Attaching a tow bar to a carbon fibre car and other differing structures like ours is the next thing we need to see.

Fysherman replied on 07/10/2017 13:29

Posted on 07/10/2017 13:29

I know 3 people with electric cars (actually one has the Nissan S200 electric van) and they all like them. Its when it's time to change to a newer model that is likely to put them off buying another.

Two of them (Husband and wife) both have a Leaf each and that is the UK's fastest depreciating car so they are going to take quite a hit.

 

Merve replied on 07/10/2017 22:30

Posted on 07/10/2017 11:36 by Fysherman

Hi Merve, Hope you are well.

This is exactly why I don't believe all the hype about pure electric vehicles. Who is going to throw thousands of hard earned pounds at current (sorry) electric vehicles with new technology always just around the corner that will render their purchase worthless.This is what will stop pure electric vehicles from ever becoming mainstream,

I see that the current (done it again sorry) Nissan Leaf is the UK's fastest depreciating vehicle. Bet their owners are not rushing to buy another one. 

Posted on 07/10/2017 22:30

Hi Fysh, very well thank you. I hope you are the same. Yes 2 Leafs in the family- going to be expensive eh? Technology is moving apace without a doubt and I get your point totally regarding waiting for technology not only to arrive but to have been thoroughly tested and not found wanting. This new battery from Toshiba does seem to be quite an advance and not just an incremental move.  Electricity is wonderful stuff( especially when you are producing it FOC) but it has its limitations. Having said that, I wish the automotive industry well with new innovations that will improve all our lives- it will be interesting to see what happens next

Merve replied on 07/10/2017 22:35

Posted on 07/10/2017 12:52 by brue

Well we have bought an electric car and it's fine laughing It won't be as worthless as some cars will be. I believe the next development is with hydrogen fuel and also air batteries, but I think people are waiting for something that will tow well. Attaching a tow bar to a carbon fibre car and other differing structures like ours is the next thing we need to see.

Posted on 07/10/2017 22:35

Problem is Brue that Carbon Fibre is very light- if we are to tow with electric cars they need to either find super strength, super light materials to make caravans out of or have batteries big enough and heavy enough to facilitate the 85% rule. 

Hedgehurst replied on 08/10/2017 17:14

Posted on 07/10/2017 12:52 by brue

Well we have bought an electric car and it's fine laughing It won't be as worthless as some cars will be. I believe the next development is with hydrogen fuel and also air batteries, but I think people are waiting for something that will tow well. Attaching a tow bar to a carbon fibre car and other differing structures like ours is the next thing we need to see.

Posted on 08/10/2017 17:14

Good for you, congratulations on leading the way! At the same time you're right in that others of us are waiting for the kit to get cheaper before we can reach it. It's a bit of a Catch22 leap, perhaps like the 19th Century getting over the initial barrier of realising that building railways, while horribly expensive, really was the way forward, and before long they all caught on and they became more commonplace.


Now, if the gov't would only invest in subsidising some decent long term future by helping relevant technology to develop, we could become a leading exporter of new technology all over again, and the price barrier might be broken. Rather like we might have done with  solar power, and I believe to some extent do with wind power.

Meanwhile - carbon fibre caravan? What an interesting idea. I have friends with carbon fibre musical instruments, they're horribly expensive but amazingly light and strong indeed.

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