How to thrive on a non 240v site!

Merve replied on 16/01/2017 17:56

Posted on 16/01/2017 17:56

Due to difficulties migrating the original thread, which was massively interesting and popular with members, I am starting another one until the original can be found and  migrated to the Forum.  I apologise to the original OP but I think this is far too important not to be available. Personally, I think, because of the massive moves in technology recently, this subject should have a section by itself. I don't suppose the CC would think about that? So, anything about Solar Panels, LED lighting, Inverters, Safefill even. Anything that assists the caravanners to go off grid in fact - and saves money!!

young thomas replied on 12/08/2017 17:25

Posted on 12/08/2017 17:25

two fortnights spent on a site with this level of discount and it would pay for the largest Safefill, incl postagesmile

...and folk say the payback time is too longundecided

...and after that its gravy, as they saywink

Merve replied on 12/08/2017 20:02

Posted on 12/08/2017 12:55 by Boff

So we turned up to our site last night a CL nr Crieccieth, Penralt Bach.  This is a new CL and when we enquired a couple of months ago The owners had said it wasn't open because they haven't had time to instal ehu.  Told them didn't matter and they said ok.  Anyway turn up yesterday and they have installed 2 ehu points which are occupied.   We pitch and the man from one of the vans came out and said you realise that there is no ehu that side of the field.  No problem we say and pitch up.  Later on we are talking to the owners and they said once they have advertised ehu they are getting plenty phone calls and bookings.  

Now for the sad part we are paying £7 per night if we had electric it is £14 per night.  The sad part is not that the landowner is charging that, it is the fact that there is the demand to be charged double for something you don't need this time of year. Spent last night watching TV and the battery is now fully charged and that is in dull showery conditions.  People are throwing money away through ignorance

Posted on 12/08/2017 20:02

We can keep saying it Boff but only one or two are listening! On site up in the Lakes - watching tele at the moment, have had our 2 phones, I pad, Kindle Bluetooth speaker, and the Wifi unit charged together of course with pumps and we'll have all the lighting tonight we want- all from the power of the sun. You can lead a horse to water............

Pippah45 replied on 12/08/2017 21:13

Posted on 12/08/2017 21:13

Quite a few are listening Merve - and I hope CL owners will perhaps not install full electric as this one hasn't and keep the prices down for us! 

JVB66 replied on 12/08/2017 22:17

Posted on 12/08/2017 22:17

As the cl has now found, their bookings have increased since advising they have EHU ,and by the increasing amount of posts wanting "serviced" pitches then it can only be that more  CLs will need to go down that route to stay in business ,and Hardstands if other posts from the motor caravan fraternity are taken note of,and considering the the cost of installing EHU and annual testing and cost of member caused repairs(most cc ehu problems),then prices are sure to rise to compensate

Boff replied on 13/08/2017 07:34

Posted on 13/08/2017 07:34

7:00am Sunday, battery voltage 12.89v. Accurately checked with a multimeter. Just to make it clear I didn't set the alarm so I could test the voltage. I was looking for a permanent live feed for a project while the coffee was brewing laughing 
The money saved won't be going on another safefill bottle. Yesterday afternoon Mrs Boff managed to drop a bottle of wine when putting it the fridge and managed to take out not one but two of the door shelves yell

Pippah45 replied on 13/08/2017 08:22

Posted on 13/08/2017 08:22

Funny/sad though it may be I take great pleasure in checking my battery when on solar!  Admittedly by the button not a multimeter but to me there is something very satisfying about saving money and the planet!  

Poor Mrs Boff!  I had a bottle of red fall from a cupboard made a good mess of the carpet too.  

Merve replied on 13/08/2017 09:43

Posted on 13/08/2017 09:43

We have come a long way from the original concept of caravanning haven't we? At one time, land owners were not trying 'to stay in business ' - it was more a benevolent action of 'making a few bob' or 'putting some spare land to use' and it suited both the caravaner and the land owner. Now we see the demands of caravanners increasing demanding serviced pitches, which demands that electric AND plumbing and drainage be put to each pitch and the weights of MHs increasing demanding hard standings. Can we wonder then at the ever increasing prices that CLs HAVE to ask for!! Some moaning that their prices are approaching that of Club Sites. Is it any wonder really? If they provide the same facilities as club sites, what makes them able to supply it any cheaper? The fact is, you want it - you pay for it. 4 yrs ago I started to reject this form of caravanning as unnecessary expense. I could see the way it was going. I spent money on going non EHU and it was an investment that has given me money by saving it, not the other was round! Not only that, I have found a new and satisfying way of visiting beautiful places without worrying about the cost of it in the slightest. A way of being completely comfortable without all the paraphernalia and completely unnecessary additions that the modern Millie caravanner is now demanding. I just hope that the CLs that have not introduced EHUs etc begin to see increased business as people realise the potential of the modern techs. It would be a real pity and an immense loss if these little and beautiful sites slowly disappeared because people can't be bothered to fill the aquaroll or empty the loo! How pathetic. I am in the Lakes at the moment paying £5.50 per night. My grey water is pumped away into a hedge with my 12v auto bilge pump unit, the water is 20 yds away and the Elsan point 30 yds away- My heating is on to remove that early morning chill- which it has been very effective, my water is lovely and piping hot using gas in my Safefill cylinder, all my electronic gizmos are charged including my toothbrush on USB, The battery monitor shows full and not an EHU in sight! It's just me and the OH on this break but last time in Dorset it was 4 adult and 2 kids and it was equally successful. I for one will continue to reject this creeping commercialisation of CLs and seek out the real meaning and culture of caravanning in the great outdoors. The club, at one time would have been of the same opinion. Not any longer it would appear! 

huskydog replied on 13/08/2017 09:52

Posted on 13/08/2017 09:52

Merge, just thinking out loud ,so I might be wide of the mark ,so here goes,could CL owners fit a solar panel to each of their pitches for vans to use rather than the cost of installing EHU , those without a panel could "hookup" and see the benifits of the system and it would be a lower cost option for the CL owner 

as I say ,just thinking out loud and prepared to be shot down cool

Merve replied on 13/08/2017 09:57

Posted on 13/08/2017 09:52 by huskydog

Merge, just thinking out loud ,so I might be wide of the mark ,so here goes,could CL owners fit a solar panel to each of their pitches for vans to use rather than the cost of installing EHU , those without a panel could "hookup" and see the benifits of the system and it would be a lower cost option for the CL owner 

as I say ,just thinking out loud and prepared to be shot down cool

Posted on 13/08/2017 09:57

Absolutely Husky, in fact, there is an enterprising CL in Oxfordshire that has done exactly that and through it, people have found (surprise surprise) that they don't need EHU! And here's me in the middle of nowhere being able to be on Wifi and keep in touch! - again- modern technology.   Keep thinking out loud! 

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