How to thrive on a non 240v site!

Merve replied on 16/01/2017 17:56

Posted on 16/01/2017 17:56

Due to difficulties migrating the original thread, which was massively interesting and popular with members, I am starting another one until the original can be found and  migrated to the Forum.  I apologise to the original OP but I think this is far too important not to be available. Personally, I think, because of the massive moves in technology recently, this subject should have a section by itself. I don't suppose the CC would think about that? So, anything about Solar Panels, LED lighting, Inverters, Safefill even. Anything that assists the caravanners to go off grid in fact - and saves money!!

ocsid replied on 25/02/2017 12:48

Posted on 25/02/2017 12:48

The twist the refillable cylinder providers all appear to miss is one of flexibility, a built in with removal capability. A Safefill with a "buddy kit" to an external filler at one end, a cylinder snap on at the other.

So, whilst towing you can use all the LPG forecourts that have a viable access for a towed unit or MH, thus not challenging the station owner's rules. But have the flexibility of a portable cylinder you can take at your convenience to an outlet without such restrictions; if indeed you ever need to.

 

Fysherman replied on 25/02/2017 14:34

Posted on 25/02/2017 14:34

 Gaslow make just such a system. Their "portable" cylinder can be used as a fixed installation or as a pick up and carry.

A shame Safefill cannot be used in this way due to its design but the Gaslow portable cylinder is quite a bit heavier than the lightweight Safefill

ocsid replied on 25/02/2017 15:18

Posted on 25/02/2017 14:34 by Fysherman

 Gaslow make just such a system. Their "portable" cylinder can be used as a fixed installation or as a pick up and carry.

A shame Safefill cannot be used in this way due to its design but the Gaslow portable cylinder is quite a bit heavier than the lightweight Safefill

Posted on 25/02/2017 15:18

Okay, though I have not seen them offering a filling system with snap on adaptor to exploit the portable's filling port in that way.

In addition, it only has a draw-off port and I can't see using that to fill would be wise even if physically possible because of a check valve?

Technically I can see a filling line with a self-sealing snap on connector fitted to the filling port too challenging or unsafe, as the existing remains full of liquid LPG anyway. It would need a relief or be made in a compliant material to live with temperature changes.

 

ocsid replied on 25/02/2017 16:01

Posted on 25/02/2017 16:01

"the Gaslow portable cylinder is quite a bit heavier than the lightweight Safefill".

Yes, but it also takes 10% more LPG and the weights tare are 12.5 compared to claimed 5 kgs.

I am envisaging very infrequently lugging it about, only the occasions where I get things really wrong and need to go off site for an emergency refill. Very rare I expect as would retain carrying a 10 Kg Gaslight buffer.

That said I would prefer a Safefill variant as I am into the composite plastic bottles despite the reduced capacity.

Pippah45 replied on 25/02/2017 16:58

Posted on 25/02/2017 16:58

Ocsid Safefill come in 3 sizes - I have a 10kg and they also do 7.5 and 5kg.  So far 10kg has lasted me until I get home to refill but I haven't been on long gas hungry trips I suppose.  

Merve replied on 25/02/2017 19:48

Posted on 25/02/2017 12:48 by ocsid

The twist the refillable cylinder providers all appear to miss is one of flexibility, a built in with removal capability. A Safefill with a "buddy kit" to an external filler at one end, a cylinder snap on at the other.

So, whilst towing you can use all the LPG forecourts that have a viable access for a towed unit or MH, thus not challenging the station owner's rules. But have the flexibility of a portable cylinder you can take at your convenience to an outlet without such restrictions; if indeed you ever need to.

 

Posted on 25/02/2017 19:48

Unfortunately Ocsid, Safefill has never been able to be filled from an external filling point- it's just not designed that way with only one inlet. Therefore, Safefill, have never supplied a fill hose but some people insist for some reason that they have! Safefills words- not mine. I have all three sizes which I find extremely flexible. If it's a 4 day trip- 5Kg. A week - 8kg - a fortnight or longer- the 10.3 kg and the 5Kg as backup. 

Hedgehurst replied on 25/02/2017 22:22

Posted on 25/02/2017 22:22

Of course, to put cats among pigeons here, we should really be hoping for the next step, as while these systems sound like a great improvement on the Calor gas monopoly, and I can see myself going for Safefill, they still use oil-based gas. I wonder if anyone's developing a bio gas suitable for camping/caravanning use.

?

 

Merve replied on 25/02/2017 22:48

Posted on 25/02/2017 22:48

Now that I pass to someone else! I'm sure someone on here will know hedge???

Pippah45 replied on 26/02/2017 09:50

Posted on 26/02/2017 09:50

Interesting question Hedgehurst - I wouldn't have thought it important enough to spend money researching that with LPG being a bi-product anyway?  That gel stuff that can run a simple camping stove is interesting though - but that too is a bi-product isn't it? 

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