Posted on 30/03/2019 15:59
We swapped to an on board autogas tank a while ago hoping to save time and money in the long run but we are noticing that many garages are having the refill facilities removed from their forecourts. It is now being suggested by several other owners that this is a growing trend and it is becoming a problem as they are finding it increasingly harder to locate providers whilst out and about on their tours. Have I made a mistake?
Posted on 05/04/2019 15:50 by young thomasas you've insisted on raising this 'issue' yet again.....yawn....surely it would have cost the club about the same (possibly even less) to have designed their waste points with a better, single, across the way grid rather than the multiple, heavy, iron trapdoors they decided on.
theyve obviously realised their error as they're redoing them all, properly
nothing to do with poor MH design in the least.
Posted on 05/04/2019 18:15 by EmilysDadtheyve obviously realised their error as they're redoing them all, properly
though a few of the new waste points I've seen are actually proud of the road surface🤣
Posted on 05/04/2019 14:24 by young thomasMerve, I've certainly mentioned it in the past, and the app.
one of the really good things about it is the verification of supply where a visitor can add a date and comment about their visit...
so you will know the last time someone visited (and posted).
obviously, not everyone updates the site, but there are sufficient responses to be able to be pretty sure that a site is open for LPG.
edit: just spotted Kjells reply and that's odd that a recent verification turns out to be wrong...they often include the time and the price of the gas....usually from a real transaction...
BTW, the website also has the full European list of POI data, again very useful.
Posted on 05/04/2019 19:12
Yes BB I know you have but I meant on this particular thread. As DD says, it can be hit and miss. I had to report the one closed at Alby in Norfolk twice before it was taken off. Really important that people using LPG pumps wherever, makes sure that the info is passed on to mylpg.eu or in my case, where you find one gone, report it. It seems to me that refillables are growing in use exponentially- could it be the catalyst to prevent more closing? It would be nice to think so!
Posted on 05/04/2019 20:46
The one issue I would have on a club site filling LPG refillables is that it would need an extra staff member to man the pump throughout the day or whenever needed and be fully trained in safety..
Having witnessed refilling abroad, the pump operator usually opens the release valve to ensure that the tank is empty. Then, on closing it when the cylinder is vented he /she knows how much can be pumped in be it Litres as against KG capacity. This gassing off of the residual liquid does form a somewhat explosive cloud of gas in the immediate area That is the danger - should someone be passing by on the outside of the LPG station. Yes - I have seen a pump operator scream at a pedestrian on the pavement whilst they passed by smoking a cigarette.
A difficult risk to manage and perhaps that is why the big operators are withdrawing the service
Posted on 05/04/2019 20:54
We have only just bought a MH with gaslow refillables. It came with full tanks, so I have yet to fill them. However, all the videos I have watched show the pump cutting off automatically, at I think 80% full. Also the cylinders do not need to be empty before topping up. There were certainly no gas clouds in evidence.
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Posted on 05/04/2019 21:06 byRedface, I have filled cars, and refillables countless times. Never have I had a pump operator do the job. Never have I seen a tank emptied. Why would that need to be done. Refillables have built in overfill protection. Bear in mind that nobody is suggesting that rental cylinders should be filled on site. That would be illegal.
Posted on 05/04/2019 21:40
I have to agree with DD redface. Gassing off??? ‘A properly constructed cylinder ‘ has the 80% cutoff and therefore should not need any gassing off! The only gas that escapes is from the takeoff pipe on the release from the cylinder. The resultant puff of vapour is very quickly dispersed to a point where it is a gas / air mixture that is not inflammable or explosive. Refillables are inherently safe or should I say ‘properly constructed cylinders made for refilling are inherently safe. I echo DDs comment about refilling rental cylinders- an absolute No No!
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