Cost of EHU at CLs
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SteveL replied on 09/12/2019 10:42
moulesy replied on 09/12/2019 11:20
Posted on 09/12/2019 11:20
Returning to the cost of EHU, it's an interesting point as to whether charging separately would put folk off.
Thinking of the example of £6 a night, if a decent CL advertised itself at £16 a night or £10 without EHU I'd have been more than happy to pay the higher price. However if it advertised itself at £10 a night plus £6 for EHU I think I'd have been looking for alternatives in the same area since I doubt we ever used that much electric in the first place.
Probably makes me a bit shallow!
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replied on 09/12/2019 11:33
Posted on 09/12/2019 10:42 by SteveLYours must have better insulation than our U2 Cadiz ET. We couldn't keep it at 22C on 1kw unless the winter weather was mild / sunny.
Posted on 09/12/2019 11:33
In December 2012 (not as cold) we were unable to run the Alde on more than 1kw otherwise it was kettling due to a weak antifreeze mixture level in the caravan. It must have been weak from new that year. Temperatures were around 6c to 7c in the day and 2c to 5c overnight. We were away for 2 weeks and had no problem maintaining temperature however not coldest of weather although not particularly sunny either.
The previous instance in Scotland we were on 1kw due to lower amperage supply
KjellNN replied on 09/12/2019 16:38
Posted on 09/12/2019 16:38
Our 2008 van does not have the same level of insulation as the more modern vans, so needs at least 2kw on the Alde, often plus gas to get it heated up to start with when it is very cold.
We do not go away much in winter, but one time in March we were at Knaresborough when it was bitterly cold and we used 44 KWh of electricity in 24 hours. These days we have refillable gas so would use gas if electricity was metered.
When we go out for the day we turn the heating down to about 17 degrees so it does not take too long to warm up when we return, overnight we set it to 13degrees
Rufs replied on 09/12/2019 16:53
Posted on 09/12/2019 09:58 by SteveLHardly a fair comparison if you were not using the heating. In winter temperatures most folk would. I don't like to be cold and I think it very likely we would have consumed that in our caravan with the Alde heating. We certainly wouldn't have been using gas, as we might now, calor would have been far too expensive.
Posted on 09/12/2019 16:53
Oh!! we were, if you check out last years Easter Temps in Spain in Mazarron i think you will find they were lower than in the UK, so yes for a few evenings we did put the heater on, 2008 caravan so only blown air heating either by electric or gas, but never use gas fire unless exteremely cold.
In my opinion electric should be metered whether on a club site or cl, think it is very wasteful to go out for day and leave heating on no matter how good your insulation is, and would certainly not leave gas heater on. Dont tour much in UK during winter months, see no fun in sitting in a tin can when it is cold and wet outside, cold and frosty is good, brisk walk with dog or cycle
replied on 09/12/2019 17:04
Posted on 09/12/2019 16:53 by RufsOh!! we were, if you check out last years Easter Temps in Spain in Mazarron i think you will find they were lower than in the UK, so yes for a few evenings we did put the heater on, 2008 caravan so only blown air heating either by electric or gas, but never use gas fire unless exteremely cold.
In my opinion electric should be metered whether on a club site or cl, think it is very wasteful to go out for day and leave heating on no matter how good your insulation is, and would certainly not leave gas heater on. Dont tour much in UK during winter months, see no fun in sitting in a tin can when it is cold and wet outside, cold and frosty is good, brisk walk with dog or cycle
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Cornersteady replied on 09/12/2019 17:25
Posted on 09/12/2019 16:53 by RufsOh!! we were, if you check out last years Easter Temps in Spain in Mazarron i think you will find they were lower than in the UK, so yes for a few evenings we did put the heater on, 2008 caravan so only blown air heating either by electric or gas, but never use gas fire unless exteremely cold.
In my opinion electric should be metered whether on a club site or cl, think it is very wasteful to go out for day and leave heating on no matter how good your insulation is, and would certainly not leave gas heater on. Dont tour much in UK during winter months, see no fun in sitting in a tin can when it is cold and wet outside, cold and frosty is good, brisk walk with dog or cycle
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Posted on 09/12/2019 17:25
it is very wasteful to go out for day and leave heating on no matter how good your insulation is
Completely disagree. There is nothing worse than coming back to a freezing cold caravan on a freezing cold day and having to sit in your coats while the caravan warms. I wouldn't expect that in a hotel/B&B whatever and I certainly don't expect that in my caravan.
It is not very wasteful at all, it is called keeping me warm, and it's a holiday to be enjoyed, every single minute not a endurance test. Also it probably takes more energy to heat a caravan from cold than to keep it thermostatically kept to about 18C all day.
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Tinwheeler replied on 09/12/2019 17:34
Posted on 09/12/2019 17:34
It’s a common misconception that heat will be wasted but, in a well insulated van with no human intervention in opening doors and windows, the thermostat will maintain the set temperature and the heating element/burner will rarely turn on once that set temperature has been reached. In fact, the heating will probably run for less time in that scenario than if you turn it off/down on going out and on/up on your return. Plus you will have a cosy warm van to return to.
PS. Sorry, Corners, I repeated your point.
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Cornersteady replied on 09/12/2019 17:48
Posted on 09/12/2019 17:34 by TinwheelerIt’s a common misconception that heat will be wasted but, in a well insulated van with no human intervention in opening doors and windows, the thermostat will maintain the set temperature and the heating element/burner will rarely turn on once that set temperature has been reached. In fact, the heating will probably run for less time in that scenario than if you turn it off/down on going out and on/up on your return. Plus you will have a cosy warm van to return to.
PS. Sorry, Corners, I repeated your point.
Rufs replied on 09/12/2019 17:53
Posted on 09/12/2019 17:25 by Cornersteadyit is very wasteful to go out for day and leave heating on no matter how good your insulation is
Completely disagree. There is nothing worse than coming back to a freezing cold caravan on a freezing cold day and having to sit in your coats while the caravan warms. I wouldn't expect that in a hotel/B&B whatever and I certainly don't expect that in my caravan.
It is not very wasteful at all, it is called keeping me warm, and it's a holiday to be enjoyed, every single minute not a endurance test. Also it probably takes more energy to heat a caravan from cold than to keep it thermostatically kept to about 18C all day.
Posted on 09/12/2019 17:53
great if that is your preference, so lets have all electric metered then we will all be happy, because i disagree. bet my electricity bill would be less than yours, oh! and we dont even leave on overnight but if you are prepared to pay then great , we will all be happy
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