Cost of EHU at CLs
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Rufs replied on 10/12/2019 15:34
Posted on 10/12/2019 15:06 by derekcyrilWas on a ccc club cl site on Anglesey .chap used 2 hook ups , one for van one for oil heater in awning , left it on all day ,couldnt understand why he was chargedtwice for electric !
Posted on 10/12/2019 15:34
good example...what would have happened on a CAMHC?, he may have politely been asked to remove 1 connection, but i doubt it, and he certainly would not have been charged.
In Spain i did see an English guy remove his neighbours power lead and use his socket, and yes it was a metered post. Neighbour was away for a couple of days, did i grass him up, what do you think ???
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Rufs replied on 10/12/2019 15:53
Posted on 10/12/2019 15:43 bywho would have contemplated say 20 years ago that CL's in abundance would be providing EHU, toilet facilities, showers etc,
I would because some were 30+ years ago
Posted on 10/12/2019 15:53
very few in Scotland which is were i did most of my touring, nearest i got to an EHU was the CL field backing onto the owners garden from where a 3 pin plug socket was poking throught the fence running from his house, oh! and something sort of passing for a shower between 2 barns, but good point, but it looks like they are all jumping on the bandwagon now
Takethedogalong replied on 10/12/2019 16:43
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young thomas replied on 10/12/2019 18:48
Posted on 10/12/2019 10:29 by CornersteadyIf you read my posts I am not denying anything. It is up to them to spend their money how they wish.
I do think it irresponsible if one, in your own words, scrimp (live on very little money in order to pay for something?) for the rest of the year to afford one week away. Far better to live better all year in my view and what I would do personally, but it's their choice to live how they wish and I pass no judgement on whatever one wishes to do.
But perhaps just don't expect CLs and the club to subsidise that choice?
JVB66 replied on 10/12/2019 19:29
Posted on 10/12/2019 15:34 by Rufsgood example...what would have happened on a CAMHC?, he may have politely been asked to remove 1 connection, but i doubt it, and he certainly would not have been charged.
In Spain i did see an English guy remove his neighbours power lead and use his socket, and yes it was a metered post. Neighbour was away for a couple of days, did i grass him up, what do you think ???
nelliethehooker replied on 10/12/2019 20:02
Posted on 10/12/2019 10:29 by CornersteadyIf you read my posts I am not denying anything. It is up to them to spend their money how they wish.
I do think it irresponsible if one, in your own words, scrimp (live on very little money in order to pay for something?) for the rest of the year to afford one week away. Far better to live better all year in my view and what I would do personally, but it's their choice to live how they wish and I pass no judgement on whatever one wishes to do.
But perhaps just don't expect CLs and the club to subsidise that choice?
Posted on 10/12/2019 20:02
Far better to live better all year in my view and what I would do personally, but it's their choice to live how they wish and I pass no judgement on whatever one wishes to do.
But that is just what you have done CS, made a judgement.
Reading many of these post it's no wonder that some prospective members consider that the CC is still an "Us & them" organisation.
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replied on 10/12/2019 20:31
Posted on 10/12/2019 14:39 byI'll pay the going rate but my point as you well know is that there is no point in putting prices up for no good reason,
There is a good reason for some ..... and probably a number of motorhomers who do not need EHU much of, if not none, of the year.
A bit like when I had to pay for EHU when using a CC pitch before I had fitted mains to my caravan. Some might even be encouraged to use a CC site who would not otherwise do so. Not sure how it might impact winter users.
peedee replied on 11/12/2019 08:37
Posted on 10/12/2019 14:02 by Cornersteadythat is £4 million pounds PD! minuscule? It does't matter how much per year, it is extra that we will have to pay. You often say that the club is poor value (yet you keep using the club) and too expensive now you want even higher prices? And for what?
And how will it control costs? Just nonsense, try and apply a bit of maths.
If the current cost is £x that what the club pays to the electricity company at present. If with meters it goes down to less than that £y then that is what the club has to pay to the electric company. the club will not make or save any money. It will simply pay whatever the cost of electric used with meters or not.
Who is being penalised anyway, no one if forced to come to a club site, they know the price and terms and accept it. You make it sounds as if staying at a club site is forced upon people and they then grumble at this 'penalty'. Their choice, as is yours to come to a club site.
Posted on 11/12/2019 08:37
Where did the £4M come from CS? You obviously chose to ignore what I wrote about the miniscule increase in costs per pitch
The Club has not always been poor value for money but times are changing and I find myself using very little of what the Club has to offer in recent times but I can afford the subscription so will continue my membership if for nothing more than to have my say and a wide choice of where to stay. (CLs as well as Club sites)
If you don’t understand the concept of cost control, not much I can say other than maths is not going to help.
No one is penalised because you can use as much or as little electricity as you like as long as you pay the going rate for it but it is true if you don’t like that approach you can indeed go somewhere else.
Anyhow I an conscious that we are drifting off topic as this is about CLs, although the metering debate could equally apply to CL owners who operate an open all year site. One CL owner, concerned about their decreasing viability, pointed out modern leisure vehicles have full 240v household style electrics with underfloor heating, AC units, awning heaters, electric hobs, ovens and fridges and power showers etc,. yet the cost of CL's nightly fees haven't changed that much even though utility consumption has increased. In questioning the viability and seeking views on possible solutions on Facebook, it was interesting to note, 68 percent favoured control measures with 80 percent of these favouring metering. Only 8 percent of respondents were in favour of increased pitch fees to cover costs and a minority of 24 percent said they would not use sites with metering.
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