Cost of EHU at CLs
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peedee replied on 10/12/2019 12:06
Posted on 10/12/2019 10:46 by CornersteadyRuffs has and I was replying to him. Installation of meters will cost many hundreds of thousands and where will that money come from? Reserves or higher site fees? Our money spent to enable what exactly?
Posted on 10/12/2019 12:06
The money will come from the same place as that used to provided new sites or upgrades but unlike these the cost of providing meters can be spread over a number of years perhaps starting with the sites which are open all year! Cost of meters can be recovered in the pitch fee over the estimated life of the meter. Costs and where the money will come from are poor excuses for not fitting them.
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Takethedogalong replied on 10/12/2019 12:13
Rufs replied on 10/12/2019 12:16
Posted on 10/12/2019 12:05 by TinwheelerI'm afraid your point which you spelled out clearly in the second paragraph has been missed by some, Corners.
As you intimated, it's about being sensible and cutting the cloth etc, not about the haves vs the have nots in this life. It's affordability and budgeting wisely at whatever level rather than going in gung-ho and then discovering costs are out of reach. In short, planning and foresight.
Posted on 10/12/2019 12:16
you are sort of right, but as i said we used a static caravan, privately owned, you never saw the owners unless something went wrong, when you left if you left it clean for the next people you got your £10 deposit returned, electric was via a meter, so we knew that if we ran short on money then we did not feed the meter or used less lecce, we used to take sufficient food to see us through except for essentials such as milk and bread, i worked for a company whose one and only perk was luncheon vouchers, i used to save sufficient for maybe 2 meals out , its called driving by the seat of your pants, the only thing we did ensure was that we had enought money for petrol to get home.
Tinwheeler replied on 10/12/2019 12:50
Posted on 10/12/2019 12:16 by Rufsyou are sort of right, but as i said we used a static caravan, privately owned, you never saw the owners unless something went wrong, when you left if you left it clean for the next people you got your £10 deposit returned, electric was via a meter, so we knew that if we ran short on money then we did not feed the meter or used less lecce, we used to take sufficient food to see us through except for essentials such as milk and bread, i worked for a company whose one and only perk was luncheon vouchers, i used to save sufficient for maybe 2 meals out , its called driving by the seat of your pants, the only thing we did ensure was that we had enought money for petrol to get home.
Cornersteady replied on 10/12/2019 13:11
Posted on 10/12/2019 12:06 by peedeeThe money will come from the same place as that used to provided new sites or upgrades but unlike these the cost of providing meters can be spread over a number of years perhaps starting with the sites which are open all year! Cost of meters can be recovered in the pitch fee over the estimated life of the meter. Costs and where the money will come from are poor excuses for not fitting them.
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Posted on 10/12/2019 13:11
But new sites and upgrades will generate more income, you have a new site it will generate income to pay off the money that was used to build/buy it.
Cost of meters can be recovered in the pitch fee over the estimated life of the meter
Ah but as the club cannot charge more (pun intended) for the electricity used on that meter than is used, the cost of the meter (200+ sites, an average of say 100 pitches?) will be easily well over 500,000 pounds.
Where do we get that back from. As you say pitch fees but as you can't charge any more than the electricity used then that pitch fee will have to be higher than it is now to get back all that money. If the current in built charge is say £4 (which has often been cited) on a pitch fee of say £20 then with a meter I would expect to pay £16 and then the charge for the lectriclyty I used, and legally no more). Under your model there would have to be an increase in the pitch fee to what? a few pounds? Either way it will be more.
I am surprised you advocate this PD, how many times have you said that club sites prices are too high, now you want them even higher??
Cornersteady replied on 10/12/2019 13:15
Posted on 10/12/2019 11:14 by young thomasa sensible post Alan...
paying attention to 'consumable prices' like electric, gas, fuel etc has nothing to do with who spent what on their van...its to do with weighing up if youre comfortable with the going rate or you feel an alternative is better value..
when we travel long distances, only stopping to sleep and eat, theres little point in paying top dollar for a site, so we regularly stop at free aires.
again, nothing to do with the cost of our van, in fact a key element of having a fully equipped 'house with engine' is so that we can stop at places we choose without having to find a site.
like some we dont have to 'worry' about these items, its just 'evaluating'.
as i said in another thread, 100 night tour at €10 for an aire is a lot of money, 100 nights at €20 for a site is a really significant outlay.
its nothing to do with being able to afford it, its a choice based on us preferring in-town/seaside parking and spending our 'hard retired' cash on other things.
as you say, im sure some have to think pretty carefully about costs in order to sustain this hobby.
Posted on 10/12/2019 13:15
as you say, im sure some have to think pretty carefully about costs in order to sustain this hobby.
that can be applied to most things bought for leisure/hobby, they are not necessities and that is life, one has to get on with it. Too expensive - well harsh but sorry you can't have it.
As I have said it may come to me too but I won't complain and ask for lower prices
Cornersteady replied on 10/12/2019 13:23
peedee replied on 10/12/2019 13:38
Posted on 10/12/2019 13:38
On a cost of £200 per pitch the increase would be minisucle over he life ot the meter. Work it out based on a 7 month season and a pitch occupancy of 65 percent..On top of this, it is very much a fairer system without penalising anyone and in the long run it will help the Club control costs which should help restrict increases in pitch fees.
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