American Forest River or Hobby 720 KFU

CamperKaren replied on 05/07/2017 21:00

Posted on 05/07/2017 21:00

Hi,

Today we have viewed 2 American Caravan Dealers and a Hobby Dealer.  The Amercian is a River Forest Surveyor 247BHS and the Hobby is a 720 KFU

Both are approx the same money - £27k.

Both are 8m

The American has air conditioning and outside cooking / fridge on the side with large beds and 2 slide out hydraulic sides.

We have 3 springer spaniels which would benefit from air conditioning....

I called DVLA and on both our licences we are able to tow a vehicle upto 3500KGs and a trailer upto 3500kgs.

I am undecided as to which one to go for.......

Both are in stock and available, delivered in 4 days....

What other considerations should we be thinking of............any ideas welcome.

 

Kind REgards

 

Karen and Andy

CamperKaren replied on 05/07/2017 22:37

Posted on 05/07/2017 22:37

We are both experienced at towing as I have towed horses for years in my own trailer and I did have a large Eurocargo 3 horse lorry and Andy is a builder and tows plant machinery through his contruction business.  So not adverse to towing, or nervous......just wanting to make sure we buy the right van and keep it legal!

 

Thanks Guys!

KjellNN replied on 05/07/2017 22:37

Posted on 05/07/2017 22:35 by CamperKaren

We will tow with a Ford Ranger truck, it has commercial vehicle insurance,  After speaking with the DVLA there was no limit to length only weight.

FORD RANGER spec

2.2 Duratorq TDCi (150PS (110kW)) 4x4 Automatic

Payload Net 1062kg

Payload Gross 1137kg

Front Axel Plated Mass 1480kg

Rear Axel Plated Mass 1850kg

Gross Vehicle Mass 3200kg

Kerb Weight 2063kg

Rear Axel Ratio 3.73kg

Maximum Trailer Weight braked/unbraked 3500kg

Max GTM 5950kg

 

Posted on 05/07/2017 22:37

From those figures, your tow vehicle could not legally pull either of the vans you looked at.

Either you are not asking "the  correct questions". or the people  at DVLA are not understanding what you are trying to establish.

N1805 replied on 05/07/2017 22:54

Posted on 05/07/2017 22:54

Selling on in the future would be something to consider as both these are not your everyday caravan so would appeal to a smaller number of buyers.  Good luck whatever you choose.

KjellNN replied on 05/07/2017 23:18

Posted on 05/07/2017 23:18

I would also think that your vehicle is possibly a bit under powered for a very heavy van.

Our van is MTPLM 1900kg, we had a Volvo XC90 184PS, which was fine, but it  felt a steep hill.

We recently changed to a VW Touareg with 262PS and I really notice the difference.....no problem on hills now.

Oneputt replied on 06/07/2017 07:10

Posted on 06/07/2017 07:10

Firstly I would not consider the Hobby (unless you own Fort Knox) as the bad boys would be onto it in a flash.

An acquaintance of mine has a large American tag axle van which he sites semi permanently and manages 1 trip abroad each year due to the unsuitability of touring in the UK. Think about some road weight restrictions.

Having brought  it he wishes that he had purchased a fifth wheeler which he reckons would be easier to tour with.

Whatever you decide to go for, enjoy and have fun.

Boff replied on 06/07/2017 08:44

Posted on 06/07/2017 08:44

Two aspects, of the American would worry me

Firstly the build quality as far as I understand some of the US build methods are pretty archaic I have reviews from the USA for example getting very excited about plastic double glazed windows and cassette blinds.  Are the all the electrics ok in the UK.  I believe this is not just the voltage but possibly the frequency as well   

Noseweight a lot of US trailers seem to have the wheels set a long way back makes for a stable tow but check the noseweight for suitability for a Ranger. 

In my mind I would probably go for the hobby but both of them are going to be very large caravans, maybe too big for touring. 

Pippah45 replied on 06/07/2017 10:44

Posted on 06/07/2017 10:44

Have you used the Club matching service?  I tried it recently when a salesman tried to sell me a Mitsubishi ASX and the result was not suitable unless I was an experienced tower - which I am but I don't want to drop from the good match with the Outlander I have.  Too much pull from overtaking vehicles if it's borderline suitable which doesn't make for a relaxed journey.  

crown green bowler replied on 06/07/2017 11:10

Posted on 06/07/2017 11:10

One point to remember when buying is repairs and spares for whatever you are towing. The main dealer for Hobby I think is at Ambergate Derbyshire, although you may get repairs done in France better than an American van. Also you will be over 100% with your towing vehicle. We tow 1900kg with the large shogun and find that to be very safe towing.

KjellNN replied on 06/07/2017 12:35

Posted on 06/07/2017 12:35

Insuring a Hobby could be a headache, they are very attractive to a certain section of the population.  Even the slightly smaller ones.

Also, there are some sites(not Club) in UK that will not accept Hobbys.

I too would worry about the availability of spares for an American van.

The Hobby would use very similar parts to UK vans, but bodywork could well be an issue.

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