Electric car pulling a caravan

This isn't a living standards comparison thread JVB, it's about the possibilities of towing with an EV. It would be considerate of you if you'd keep to the subject in question as it is of interest to those who might like to consider the option.

Please, look back at the OP and try to not to hinder the responses. 

We all should know CO2 emissions are the biggest threat to our planet? 

One of the other methods. of fuel is Hydrogen,which if it is Green Hydrogen (very expensive to produce if fine 

But the method used a pushed by the oil companies although is cheaper to produce pumps more greenhouse gases into the sky than ever 

There was a piece on Countryfile yesterday  ,where it was stated. ,we will need numerous new nuclear power stations ,not only to replace the life expired  stations but to cover for the much more electricity needed in the future. but also to cover for the lack of power available from solar and wind power that has been proved to not be as reliable as as expected with our weather conditions,as when we are having the very high winds of recent years windfarms have to be shut down

As per Choc,Ts

I think Boff's point was that pavement gullies are not new. They have been around for years for different purposes. Charging is just one more use case. 

Overnight home charging is undeniably the cheapest option. But does not have to be the only way. As an EV driver, you can set up an agreement to use a neighbours charger through a facility like co-charger. Or you can just use public charging. For a positive story of a user who has been doing exactly that, have a look at https://www.facebook.com/groups/UKEVDrivers/permalink/7548962761841080/

Drawbacks of an EV -

• They can be expensive to buy. But they can also be very cheap depending on who you are and how you access one. This is a subjective, not objective issue. 
• They have less range from full to empty than an ICE car. This is a subjective issue.19 days of out of 20, the journeys I do per day are shorter than the range of the car, and by the next day it has full range again.
• If I have to public charge, it costs more, but still less than petrol or diesel. 
• If I don't have a drive, I cant charge from home. Maybe. Or maybe there is an option I can look at. It depends. 
• They can only tow up to a limited weight. Just like any other car. 
• If I want to tow a long way, I might have to unhitch to charge - yes, an actual real drawback. That has almost no impact on me at all...
• The public charging network is not perfect. It still needs to expand and add capacity. Fortunately, only about 1 in 20 days that I use the car do I need to use the public network, and even then its not terrible in my experience. Your experience may vary. 
• The batteries will absolutely definitely be shot after three years. Only, my 5 year old PHEV had zero battery loss when I sold it, and it was under warranty for 8, and will more than likely be "fine" after 12 or 15. Same with my EV.
• It doesn't make a sound like a V8. Oh dear, what a pity, never mind.

If I missed any - feel free to call them out, and I will give you my opinion on being a drawback to me or not (with which you may disagree). 

But at the end of the day, no one is being forced to drive an EV. Not now, not in 2030, not even in 2035. If someone doesn't want one, they can simply not get one. 

If they think they might like one, but have heard there may be issues, or would like to ask how they work, I and a bunch of other EV owners and drivers will be more than happy to bore them to death with all the good stuff about EVs, and point out where they are not so good too. 

Why do you excite yourself so & get into a negative lather about something you will never own nor would consider owning. You don’t need a property with a drive to own an EV the charge points are everywhere. . .Similar to fuel stations(Petrol & Diesel) I don’t hear folk moaning about not having one of those at hand🤷🏻‍♂️

@ Chocolate Trees you have missed out

• The batteries catch fire and you will burn to death
• If you get caught in a traffic jam in the winter, the batteries will go instantly flat and you will freeze to death.  

Geographic location of my house has very little to do with my ownership. If you have a drive, your local infrastructure is almost irrelevant. If you don't it's far more relevant, definitely to be thought about before getting one. 

I do have a company car. It makes ownership cheap. The exact same ownership benefits are open to anyone who can have a car on salary sacrifice (pretty much all of the public sector and lots of private companies). Retired people have a MUCH harder time here, and thats a huge shame (and needs dealing with) as they could benefit from them (low miles and low cost to run). 

I do have a cheap cost of charging. Anyone with a smart meter can access it. There are a number of EV charging tariffs from the energy companies. I happen to use Octopus Go!. 

Flats and apartments present a challenge. Not impossible, but harder. Of course if government chose, it could mandate charging facilities for these types of dwellings, with home electricity costs. 

Your neighbour with the PHEV is unfortunate - but it happens, sometimes things fail. One case does not prove the entire fleet bad? Your son in law says he would not choose one without free workplace charging. Yet he has free charging, and chose an EV. I assume he is otherwise happy with it?

Oh yeah! And they are absolutely completely silent so I will probably be run over by one too, while crossing the road looking at my phone listening to my headphones. 

My daughters first full EV taxi was swapped in still working but with a 30% reduced  battery range, and only after 150,000 miles in 2 years. Photo was taken a few years ago, and would probably equate to normal >10 years of ownership.

Not bad for a hard life.

Only 150k miles, eh 😀