NHS test/trace on site

Carian replied on 16/10/2020 20:04

Posted on 16/10/2020 20:04

Well, I've just had the email saying we have to register with the nhs test and trace app when arriving on site. As a couple we own standard old school phones which don't have the app facility so are we now discriminated against and can't enjoy our hobby?

SteveL replied on 18/10/2020 11:48

Posted on 18/10/2020 10:29 by AcoupleofOldies

Yes David the problems with TalkTalk were with their system whilst the CEO was Dido Harding. If you have confidence in the NHS app whilst she is running it then fine download it. My TalkTalk account was hacked during her reign and I still receive calls as a result. It is as I say a matter of confidence and whilst she is at the helm I am getting ready to abandon ship.

Posted on 18/10/2020 11:48

You don't actually have an App account with any personal data, so there is not anything to hack. Nothing is stored centrally so there is not a database to hack into. In the event your phone was hacked all they would get is a meanless jumble of codes from the NHS App. Although they may well get information about you from other sources on your phone.

Surfer replied on 18/10/2020 11:48

Posted on 16/10/2020 20:04 by Carian

Well, I've just had the email saying we have to register with the nhs test and trace app when arriving on site. As a couple we own standard old school phones which don't have the app facility so are we now discriminated against and can't enjoy our hobby?

Posted on 18/10/2020 11:48

Seems a daft idea as you have pay for the pitch and the CMC already have all your contact details whether or not you have a Smartphone.  We are all for Track & Trace, but it needs to be used correctly which is why it is not working! 

We would prefer a proper lockdown as that seemed to work in slowing down the virus however now people abuse the leeway they have been given and just don't care any more i.e. Liverpool the other night and other cities, towns etc like it!

SteveL replied on 18/10/2020 11:58

Posted on 18/10/2020 11:58

Seems a daft idea as you have pay for the pitch and the CMC already have all your contact details whether or not you have a Smartphone. We are all for Track & Trace, but it needs to be used correctly which is why it is not working!

I agree it does seem a bit superfluous. The only information it gets is that you checked into that site on that particular day. Unless you go back daily it has no idea how long you stay. Where as the CC have our home address, phone number and length of stay all readily available on their system. It does if course depend on the track and trace people chasing up the CC in the event someone reports a positive test. However, I suppose it is another string to the bow in the battle against this virus.

AcoupleofOldies replied on 18/10/2020 12:24

Posted on 18/10/2020 11:48 by Surfer

Seems a daft idea as you have pay for the pitch and the CMC already have all your contact details whether or not you have a Smartphone.  We are all for Track & Trace, but it needs to be used correctly which is why it is not working! 

We would prefer a proper lockdown as that seemed to work in slowing down the virus however now people abuse the leeway they have been given and just don't care any more i.e. Liverpool the other night and other cities, towns etc like it!

Posted on 18/10/2020 12:24

Agree but the rot set in with the Daytrip to Barnard Castle. Once that happened no-one could take the restrictions seriously. As for the magic App  it is not the answer, it will not protect you, it will not magically send out rays that will smite the virus down all it will do is advise you that you have been near to someone with the virus provided of course they have the app and it's turned on. I am going to email my MP and check if he has downloaded the app. If he has then I may have some confidence in the system but in reality I doubt he has.

Takethedogalong replied on 18/10/2020 12:44

Posted on 18/10/2020 12:24 by AcoupleofOldies

Agree but the rot set in with the Daytrip to Barnard Castle. Once that happened no-one could take the restrictions seriously. As for the magic App  it is not the answer, it will not protect you, it will not magically send out rays that will smite the virus down all it will do is advise you that you have been near to someone with the virus provided of course they have the app and it's turned on. I am going to email my MP and check if he has downloaded the app. If he has then I may have some confidence in the system but in reality I doubt he has.

Posted on 18/10/2020 12:44

Sorry but that’s not correct. The Barnard Castle incident didn’t prevent me taking the restrictions seriously, mainly because I am not thick enough to follow suit. My first priority is doing what is safest for me, my loved ones, AND other people.

What it did do was confirm some underlying suspicions around the suitability, intelligence and morality of those in positions of power, and making decisions on our behalf. DC wasn’t the only one who made a very bad decision, but he got away with it, and our top decision maker colluded in his getting away with it. Hence the reason why so many people, including MPs are now questioning the rights and wrongs of this latest round of shutting down selected areas.

It’s about much more than case numbers. It’s about being able to pay your mortgage, your fuel bills, food for your family, which has an impact on mental health, relationships, taken to the enth degree, not getting so down you commit suicide. That’s the reality for lower paid, zero contract workers, and that covers a great deal of the hospitality and leisure sector, which is what has to shut down first.

The App is a tech tool to help inform those who choose, or have to be out in places where they might come into contact with others who might test positive. It’s not a cure, it’s an aid. If you have no intentions of going out, visiting eateries, shops, travelling on public transport, getting your hair cut, etc..... then simply don’t load it. But if you do, then help out, it costs nothing.

DavidKlyne replied on 18/10/2020 12:57

Posted on 18/10/2020 10:29 by AcoupleofOldies

Yes David the problems with TalkTalk were with their system whilst the CEO was Dido Harding. If you have confidence in the NHS app whilst she is running it then fine download it. My TalkTalk account was hacked during her reign and I still receive calls as a result. It is as I say a matter of confidence and whilst she is at the helm I am getting ready to abandon ship.

Posted on 18/10/2020 12:57

But Dido Harding or Serco has nothing to do with the running of the NHS App. I appreciate that you have had an unsettling experience with TalkTalk. However there are tens of millions of people who use SmartPhones to virtually run their lives without any problems. The transmission of data over a mobile phone connection is more secure than say using site wifi because its encrypted. 

I would argue that it is far more secure to read a QR code on a phone than leave a piece of paper with anyone and not knowing what happens to that piece of paper when you leave a site. I would imagine the Club deal with this in a secure way by shredding those details once someone has left the site but the nature of bits of paper is that they can go astray with enough personal details for some nefarious person to use them to their advantage?

David

Tinwheeler replied on 18/10/2020 12:59

Posted on 18/10/2020 12:24 by AcoupleofOldies

Agree but the rot set in with the Daytrip to Barnard Castle. Once that happened no-one could take the restrictions seriously. As for the magic App  it is not the answer, it will not protect you, it will not magically send out rays that will smite the virus down all it will do is advise you that you have been near to someone with the virus provided of course they have the app and it's turned on. I am going to email my MP and check if he has downloaded the app. If he has then I may have some confidence in the system but in reality I doubt he has.

Posted on 18/10/2020 12:59

Of course the app's not a cure all. It's an aid to help prevent the spread of infection. It may not be perfect but if it saves one life it's surely worth it.

Consider this, you unwittingly come into contact with someone who subsequently tests positive. You don’t know that because you don’t have the app so you carry on as normal. You do your shopping, visit the barber, meet family and friends (within the guidelines)..... Then you develop symptoms and test positive. Whoops, if only you'd had the app you would have isolated and protected all those folk you came into contact with.

Having the app will kill no one but Covid might.

Tinwheeler replied on 18/10/2020 13:05

Posted on 18/10/2020 11:33 by Wherenext

How's the head after all that wall banging?smile

Posted on 18/10/2020 13:05

Hmm, I was wondering what happened to the emoji I used last time๐Ÿ˜€

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