Posted on 16/10/2020 20:04
Well, I've just had the email saying we have to register with the nhs test and trace app when arriving on site. As a couple we own standard old school phones which don't have the app facility so are we now discriminated against and can't enjoy our hobby?
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Posted on 18/10/2020 09:37 by JVB66Are they not tied together at some point ? otherwise what use is it
Posted on 18/10/2020 09:59
No, JV. It is two different things. The T&T team question people who are tested positive about their contacts and then set about tracing those contacts.
The app is effectively an add on in the hope of preventing spread of the virus and reducing deaths. It works by relying on those who subsequently test positive to input that info into the app. The app then sends out magic waves to all other app users who were near the infected person and alerts them to the need to isolate.
That's as clear as I can make it. The app is a weapon to fight with, don't dissuade people from using it due to fake news and misunderstanding.
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Posted on 18/10/2020 09:55 by SteveLNo not tied together. Although I think the authorities can get very basic info like the number of alerts and general area of the country. The main benifit is that it will warn you if you have been in close proximity to someone, 2 / 4 metres for 15 minutes, who later tests positive. Or for you to assist others you might have been close to by reporting your positive test. For ourselves who don't do public transport, restaurants etc, we are unlikely to be close enough to those we don't know for long enough. For others who still have to work, use public transport etc, it is a valuable additional tool in the fight against the virus.
Posted on 18/10/2020 10:10
Very confuseing when i would think the majority of the population expect both to be in contact ,and as the police can now ask for details of people suspected of breaking isolation rules (amongst i would think other reasons for questioning the said person/s) what info would be available if not tied together?
Posted on 18/10/2020 09:29 by TinwheelerSteve, I think there is general confusion between the T&T manual tracing scheme where details are known and the anonymous app system.
Posted on 18/10/2020 10:10 by JVB66Very confuseing when i would think the majority of the population expect both to be in contact ,and as the police can now ask for details of people suspected of breaking isolation rules (amongst i would think other reasons for questioning the said person/s) what info would be available if not tied together?
Posted on 17/10/2020 17:13 by DavidKlyneI would encourage you to be a little better informed on the advantages of technology. The problems at TalkTalk were flaws in their computer systems nothing at all to do with phones run on their network. My wife thought she was perfectly happy with her Nokia 6200 phone until I persuaded her to let me buy her a Smart Phone as a present. She is now on her second Smart Phone and I don't think she would surrender it without a fight!!! People who have no experience of Smart Phones have no idea what these wonderful pieces of technology can do. Mine can run my bank and credit card accounts, control my heating at home when I am away in the van, I can measure how far I walk or cycle, I can take a picture of a flower I don't recognise and get the name through an app on my phone. If I am in a strange places I have maps at my disposal to find the way to where I want to be. All this on a piece of equipment I can slip into my pocket. The NHS COVID App is there to try and protect you and others around you.
David
PS How do you book Club sites?
Posted on 18/10/2020 10:29
Yes David the problems with TalkTalk were with their system whilst the CEO was Dido Harding. If you have confidence in the NHS app whilst she is running it then fine download it. My TalkTalk account was hacked during her reign and I still receive calls as a result. It is as I say a matter of confidence and whilst she is at the helm I am getting ready to abandon ship.
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Posted on 18/10/2020 10:30
The app works like radar, detecting passing ships!
The test & trace works via human intervention eg you get off a plane from a country that requires uk quarantine, you are logged into the system via the details you have to supply at the airport, you might get a phone call to check you are quarantining.
One works on non human contact the other works on contact.
Posted on 18/10/2020 10:30 by brueThe app works like radar, detecting passing ships!
The test & trace works via human intervention eg you get off a plane from a country that requires uk quarantine, you are logged into the system via the details you have to supply at the airport, you might get a phone call to check you are quarantining.
One works on non human contact the other works on contact.
Posted on 18/10/2020 10:29 by AcoupleofOldiesYes David the problems with TalkTalk were with their system whilst the CEO was Dido Harding. If you have confidence in the NHS app whilst she is running it then fine download it. My TalkTalk account was hacked during her reign and I still receive calls as a result. It is as I say a matter of confidence and whilst she is at the helm I am getting ready to abandon ship.
Posted on 18/10/2020 10:36
I presume you'd be willing to give details on paper when asked, the app saves a lot of paper work and manual contact tracing. Which is more secure, your details handed over to someone you don't know or an anonymous app?
Personally I prefer the more anonymous app route where the coding should prevent interference from outside sources.
Regarding hacking, this happens to many big institutions unfortunately, it's a price we pay for developing technology.
Posted on 18/10/2020 10:17 by TinwheelerI repeat, any police involvement will be via the manual T&T team to reach those the team have contacted. That is nothing at all to do with the anonymous app.
Carian