Great Big Green Week

Same as Steve here and remember buying the ZX81 from Dixons (remember them) in Hull and being the envy of my friends as I also got a 16kb RAM pack. A friend across the corridor bought the cheaper kit where you had to put the computer together yourself. I've still got it in the loft somewhere together with a BBC electron and B computers. And recall using a tape cassette recorder to load in programs that usually took some time to load.

And yes with Windows I remember many nights staying up till the early hours trying to get either a printer or some other hardware/software to work. It wasn't plug and play but plug and pray.

We bought a new printer last week and it took minutes to get it to work.

And yes as with TW I love all this new technology.

It would be interesting to know how many bookings of members are made online.

The answer is 80 percent Corners according to the last AGM minutes but that does not mean to say those 80 percent have a lot of IT knowledge. There have been and still are many social media posts to indicate struggles with the technology.

I am in 100 percent agreement with TW's and SteveL's posts. I am not IT trained although I have a techinical background and have worked in an IT department. Much like Steve my first home computer was a Commodore 64 which I upgraded to an Apple Mac when I retired nearly 30 years ago. I later realised the latters short comings and changed to Windows PCs. Every thing I know about IT (still very limited) is self taught, it is not that difficult to seek out information as it is required. I started off by reading bits of the GCSE O lever computer course and have added to that knowledge as required. There are local organisations who offer free courses in our area for those who find it difficult to educate themselves or need more help and I would be very surprised if this was an exception.

peedee

The answer is 80 percent Corners according to the last AGM minutes but that does not mean to say those 80 percent have a lot of IT knowledge.

Thanks PD, but they have enough to know how to book and pay (online banking probably covered) for club site, and that is all that necessary, and not the 60% you mentioned as having trouble? Again I think two different populations in many different ways. 

Also if you can book a club site then they can almost certainly turn off receiving a paper magazine, which isn't always the 'greener' option as you suggested anyway. I think 80% proves my point, if only 3-3% opt out it can't all be from the 20% who don't use the online booking eve allowing for not knowing what the real numbers are I would say?

There have been and still are many social media posts to indicate struggles with the technology

Where? on CT? And if they can post on social media that is all that is necessary?

Maybe if we really want to make the club greener close down the call centre booking system? Just a joke of course, then again postal bookings have gone.

 I posted a question recently asking if CT was passed it's Best By Date. The response was that CT was a friendly place where members happily exchanged hints and tips on our hobby. In this thread we have been asked by the club to do just that and so far not one response has been made that that fits the criteria Rowena asked, it has all been club bashing yet again.

So does anybody have any hints and tips that may be of benefit to other members.

Also if you can book a club site then they can almost certainly turn off receiving a paper magazine

The fact remains, there is no incentive to do so even if they know about it.

peedee

I like to thumb through my Club paper magazine when eating my breakfast or lunch. We have to read our ex works and pensioner magazines on line and its not the same. Its a bit like people preferring to read a real book rather than on a Kindle. For some  "incentives" might be seen as being forced to accept the magazine in digital form?

David 

1. Consider a solar panel of some sort, either roof mounted, or free standing. 

2. Lighten your load where possible, only carrying what you really need to be happy and comfortable. Saves fuel, minimally, but still a saving.

3. Some E bike batteries can easily be used to power up iPads, phones if you go off grid, otherwise charge up when travelling, particularly if you tour around daily in a MH/Camper.

4. Put any spare hot water boiled into a flask, then re use when required, saving on gas usage.

5. Keep a throw blanket in outfit for cooler Summer nights that don’t really need heating on.

6. Consider some one pan meals to save on gas usage.

7. Use curtains and blinds in Winter to keep warmth in.

8. Take your own torch, then Club can keep site lighting to a minimum. Even better, if you have a bathroom, use it!

9. Ban heaters in awnings. 

10. Ban non breathable groundsheets and “awning carpets” from grass pitches. Ensure they are lifted to preserve grass pitches, including moving things around in awning, so that “sour” patches are avoided.

11. Lower ampage from bollards. If they can’t use it without tripping things, then users will learn new behaviour!

12. Don’t add more “dog washes/bike washes” to sites. Use a bucket! 

All above are good camping common sense, thinking about others, being prepared. The more the Club provides, the more visitors will expect and there won’t be a change of mindset. The loss of the no facility sites is coming back to bite the Club now, and all they are left with are not so environmentally friendly, we don’t care what it costs we can afford it (if lucky) sites. Camping used to be about the great outdoors, doing something different, but Club Sites for some are just taking the TV, the multi gadget kitchen somewhere else, and doing almost the same as being at home……but not metered for energy consumption. At the prices per night, it’s no wonder some just fill their boots as much as they can, vicious circle🤷‍♀️

What about taking a personal incentive helping to be greener? That's in all our interest or do we only do that if there's money reward?

+1

I do not like reading magazines, newspapers, or even instructions manuals  online. Kindles are great and really are the same size as books but likewise there is nothing like having a real book in front of you.  Especially if it's older/first edition. Some books I have both Kindle and book versions. My late father-in-law's first edition Wainwright's are one of my most treasured books and not because they are now worth a bit.  

I like to do both, book and IPad. Digital to save weight and space, but I love old Ward Lock guides, and find paper OS maps very interesting.