Coronavirus Discussion

RowenaBCAMC replied on 09/06/2020 11:59

Posted on 09/06/2020 11:59

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Takethedogalong replied on 19/06/2020 22:49

Posted on 19/06/2020 22:49

I forgot to post this link the other day, not sure if anyone has found it. It shows very local areas and number of C19 deaths in those local areas. You need to scroll down the link page until you come to the GB map with green dots on it. If you zoom in on the map, it will show very local areas. Gives an indication of where the large and small number of deaths have been. I don’t think it shows Scotland at local area though.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51768274

 

DavidKlyne replied on 20/06/2020 09:57

Posted on 19/06/2020 19:19 by nelliethehooker

Track and Trace is fine if (nearly) everyone gives the correct information, but at the moment about 25% of people with confirmed virus are either not giving any or the correct information so many possible cases cannot be traced. 

As regards mobile phones in places like S Korea, something like 95% of the population has one and are,likely to download the app, much more than in this country, and so an app there is going to be so much more effective than over here. The attitude of a large number of people in the UK who dislike the fact that personal information will be used by outside sources to track them would certainly hinder the effectiveness of any app, as they are unlikely to download it.

Posted on 20/06/2020 09:57

I don't know what information you are asked to give if you have a test? It seems strange that someone who has a test then does not want to be contacted? There are some that think the method we use is too centralised and if it involved GP surgeries you would have greater success, assuming of course someone is registered with a GP?

I think sometimes we kid ourselves about privacy. Even without an app with are being monitored to a greater or lesser extent during our daily lives. I order something online, they (whoever they are!) know the time and place. If I use any kind of payment other than cash they know where I am. When I go into building or walk along the street I am being observed by CCTV cameras, even if I walk by my neighbours I am likely to be caught on camera. Whether downloading an App to my phone makes matters substantially worse in the scheme of things I am not sure.

David

DavidKlyne replied on 20/06/2020 09:59

Posted on 19/06/2020 22:49 by Takethedogalong

I forgot to post this link the other day, not sure if anyone has found it. It shows very local areas and number of C19 deaths in those local areas. You need to scroll down the link page until you come to the GB map with green dots on it. If you zoom in on the map, it will show very local areas. Gives an indication of where the large and small number of deaths have been. I don’t think it shows Scotland at local area though.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51768274

 

Posted on 20/06/2020 09:59

I use this website everyday to check the latest figures. Rather than use the map you can enter your postcode and it will show information regarding cases and deaths in your immediate area.

David

SteveL replied on 20/06/2020 10:08

Posted on 20/06/2020 10:08

I think sometimes we kid ourselves about privacy. Even without an app with are being monitored to a greater or lesser extent

Indeed. Since I installed my Christmas present the other day, our doorbell now takes a video clip of every caller and stores it in the cloud for a month.

peedee replied on 20/06/2020 10:21

Posted on 20/06/2020 10:21

I always think those that worry most about security have the most to hide.  However there are risks out there. I have just received this from an ex work colleague.One of our group members has had his email address spoofed and we were receiving messages which would have been dangerous to click on.

"Many other sites have been hacked and mined for email addresses, for example My Heritage the genealogy site lost 92 million records which had email addresses and passwords in them. Adobe lost 153 million emails and passwords, Dropbox 68 million emails and passwords, Linked In 164 million emails and passwords, even Tesco had a minor breach of a few thousand addresses and passwords.

You can check if your email is on any hacking list at https://haveibeenpwned.com/ , whilst I can not offer 100% guarantee the site is safe, it has been checked out by many security experts who believe it to be safe and it is recommend by Which if that is any recommendation."

The BBC is also warning about spoof calls being made purporting to come from test and trace.

Take care

peedee

Takethedogalong replied on 20/06/2020 11:01

Posted on 20/06/2020 09:59 by DavidKlyne

I use this website everyday to check the latest figures. Rather than use the map you can enter your postcode and it will show information regarding cases and deaths in your immediate area.

David

Posted on 20/06/2020 11:01

Yes I use the post code link, but if you go down to the map, zoom in, it allows you to pinpoint each green dot, which in our area highlights each individual area within our town, a bit like election Ward areas. So I can see which areas of our town has had the greater number of deaths. (Apologies if this is what you are doing as well) Using the post code just gives me the Local Authority.

brue replied on 20/06/2020 11:52

Posted on 20/06/2020 11:52

When I tried to get a home test recently I had to give my name, date of birth, NI number, full address, mobile and e mail. Then I was given a code to confirm my email. I then had to agree to a security to check on these details to confirm who I was. If I didn't agree I could ask for a drive in test only. I agreed to all these things and the message came back that my identity couldn't be confirmed/they had run out of tests for that day/ try a drive in application...

By the time I'd done this repeatedly for both types of test I realised I was taking part in a comedy sketch.

The reply which said "even if you are successful in your application for a test you may not get one" summed it up.

Maybe I should have fibbed and said I was a key worker but I bypassed that tick box!

My identity is now floating around in the chaos of logarithms that some think will solve the world's problems!

DavidKlyne replied on 20/06/2020 12:44

Posted on 20/06/2020 12:44

Brue

I remember once trying to get a state pension quote and online it just would not accept my details. When I phoned the pension office they said can we please check your details and turned out that they still had an address I had moved from at least 20 years before!! 

If you had gone to one of the drive in testing centres would you not have had to give the same details? Just wondering if there is a flaw in the system that is causing the problem with not being able to contact people who have had tests?

David 

brue replied on 20/06/2020 13:17

Posted on 20/06/2020 13:17

David. I think all my details will be up to date on the gov system, no problems with where I live judging by the usual things I receive. Yes, the same details are given before getting a drive in test because you have to book an appointment (our nearest test centres would all involve a two hour round trip plus waiting etc.) We've heard locally that a test centre is coming to Taunton without appointments, which sounds easier. 

I believe appointments so far have not been easy to get, I gave up on that one and at the time didn't feel well enough to go and queue up etc.

So, I can well believe the system might be flawed for contact tracing because obtaining a test is a bit of a game. I suspect ticking the key worker box might produce results...it asks if you are working at present, intend to work etc.

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