Arrival times

No reason at all David why you should not have phoned ahead and asked. 30 mins in a layby would be close to an eternity 

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I hope they came out and told you to leave the car park, and return at 10am as that was when they opened 😂

and remember the only reason they don’t open until 10am is a law, and other than that law, they would have gladly let you in, and taken your money 😂

of course I agree with David....it's not that folk arrive 'early' that my point (and David's experience) describes, it's the concept of having 'early' at all...

with no set arrival times, my experiences have shown that even very busy sites (and large ones at that) can manage customers (some who have driven for many hours) into site without impacting anyone already on it, nor anyone wishing to leave....

i repeat, much to some folks' amusement, but I care not..., it's the very fact that there is an 'arrival time' that causes customers (being what they are, human) to be 'ready' to enjoy pitching up as soon as they can...

this, unfortunately, but inevitibly, results in queuing...

allowing those arriving at 'earlier' times to come onto site removes queuing, reduces 'safety' issues, increases customer satisfaction and much much more....

yes, we are customers, who pay well for the sites we use...

of course, we don't have to use them (and some of us spend plenty of time elsewhere) but the question has been raised about arrival times and David's opinion and my own, about having something more flexible is as valid as those who trot out the party line like a Chief Whip.

 

far be it from me to try and educate you in maths but there is a significant difference between a half and even about 30%. and so worthy of comment and clarification on your story, not really nitpicking I would think. Btw is it nitpicking to correct your knitpicking?

I simply follow the rules to which I have signed up for. I don't expect them to be changed for my benefit, but you seem to think that they are?

 

Rules are key to stability and harmony many would argue. Remember that saying,  'Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the obedience of fools but trouble often ensues when fools consider themselves wise men and wise men act as fools!'

We'd do well to consider which 'group' we best resemble when 'breaking' with convention.

but, if you think about it carefully there is a huge difference between a Sainsburys car park and the approach road to a site which is why they don't come and ask you to leave.

In the car park you are not blocking the approach road, you are not causing a tail back and even if you were you could exit the car park quite easily. Once you have arrived at the new arrivals stop here sign on the last few sites I have been on it is virtually impossible for a large outfit to turn around. Also on the Melrose site three outfits was the limit before you started blocking two roads

as for the law part, I tried getting in earlier than their opening time on a weekday and they still wouldn't let me in, I'll try waving cash around at the door next time to let them know I want to buy something? 

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So pre mobile phone days would also have been pre WTD days that have caused a lot of the "restricted hours"that the clubs have had to encompass,before that the contracts that were in place that site staff had to work to, under hours of employment "As Many Hours as is required to run your site" and that also meant min of 0800 -2000 office cover, plus any time over and above,to keep site running,

So the WTD has for most companies/clubs that employ staff been a costly exercise so one of the main reasons that there are restrictions on time that staff are now allowed to work, and on bigger sites staffing levels have increased to help cover the hours     

JVB66, do you realise that workers can opt out of the WTD - this is common in certain industries. Not saying they should but WTD seems to be used as excuse these days for poor customer service.