Arrival times

tompo replied on 09/03/2018 13:24

Posted on 09/03/2018 13:24

just booked a few weeks at the blackpool south club site .But it now seems that they have altered the arrival time from 12 to 1 o-clock I can go along with that as its a very narrow lane outside so no room to queue with out causeing a traffic jam . My gripe (complaint) is that sites don,t enforce the leave time we have seen people in caravans leaving at 4pm at blackpool and believe it or not 2 leaving southport site at 6.30pm (caravans) you can,t tell if motorhomes are leaving or just nipping out so come on club sites lets have some rules everybody has to stick to in fairness to all members.

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Tinwheeler replied on 12/03/2018 20:18

Posted on 12/03/2018 20:08 by

Stupid to think possibly £30+ isn't just for those who can afford to throw money away. Put me down as stupidwink

Posted on 12/03/2018 20:18

I don’t see if as throwing money away if you’re getting what you want in return. 

Throwing it away is when you get nothing back. 

onepjg replied on 12/03/2018 21:09

Posted on 12/03/2018 11:52 by Takethedogalong

I don't generally have a problem with sensible rules, those that are obviously in place so that they help everyone, keep something flowing well and safely. But I happen to think that blind obedience to something just for the sake of it does not do any one or any society good. We are only debating petty comings and goings on staid, orderly holiday parks, where, let's face it, an exciting moment is if someone's child pedals the wrong way round the roadway. But it doesn't mean that on an empty site, in the middle of Winter, arriving early and being able to pitch up is a crime. It's sensible management of a resource by an empowered employee! 

Our world is a much better place for more people because a few brave individuals and groups decided to challenge tablets of stone.

Posted on 12/03/2018 21:09

I liked this post, and then decided to highlight it. It’s the most clear, balanced and sensible post on this thread, IMHO

onepjg replied on 12/03/2018 21:16

Posted on 11/03/2018 21:38 by Cornersteady

but, if you think about it carefully there is a huge difference between a Sainsburys car park and the approach road to a site which is why they don't come and ask you to leave.

In the car park you are not blocking the approach road, you are not causing a tail back and even if you were you could exit the car park quite easily. Once you have arrived at the new arrivals stop here sign on the last few sites I have been on it is virtually impossible for a large outfit to turn around. Also on the Melrose site three outfits was the limit before you started blocking two roads

as for the law part, I tried getting in earlier than their opening time on a weekday and they still wouldn't let me in, I'll try waving cash around at the door next time to let them know I want to buy something?smile 

Posted on 12/03/2018 21:16

but, if you think about it carefully there is a huge difference between a Sainsburys car park and the approach road to a site which is why they don't come and ask you to leave.

I agree CS, the biggest difference is that the site has, generally, loads of  empty pitches just waiting for my van !!

You talk about blocking roads, entrances etc, and on certain sites that is a fair point. But you never mention the majority of sites, where there are LNA or parking available. And it still doesn’t alter the fact that if the CAMC let you in, there would be no issues. 

As for the law / cash waving bit you seem to be forgetting one very important point, the site is already open. I can just picture you standing at the closed door of Sainsbury’s, vainly waving your money in the air, whilst lots of other people wondered around inside, shopping and then walking out the door. I suspect if it happened to you, you probably wouldn’t be impressed. 

Takethedogalong replied on 12/03/2018 21:30

Posted on 12/03/2018 21:09 by onepjg

I liked this post, and then decided to highlight it. It’s the most clear, balanced and sensible post on this thread, IMHO

Posted on 12/03/2018 21:30

Hells teeth onepjg, that won't do my reputation as a rebel any good!laughing

Sensible, balanced........aarrggghhhh! 

dreamer1 replied on 12/03/2018 21:38

Posted on 12/03/2018 20:08 by

Stupid to think possibly £30+ isn't just for those who can afford to throw money away. Put me down as stupidwink

Posted on 12/03/2018 21:38

Apologies stupid was a bit harsh Ive never been allowed to stay as late as 4. 30 pounds in this day and age is surely worth it to have peace of mind that you can stay as long as you like in stead of wondering if  your going to be asked to leave before you are ready, no one wants to throw away hard earned cash . looking at some of the £30,000.plus caravans and tow cars around the 70K mark im sure its done quite a lot.

KeefySher replied on 13/03/2018 07:39

Posted on 12/03/2018 21:38 by dreamer1

Apologies stupid was a bit harsh Ive never been allowed to stay as late as 4. 30 pounds in this day and age is surely worth it to have peace of mind that you can stay as long as you like in stead of wondering if  your going to be asked to leave before you are ready, no one wants to throw away hard earned cash . looking at some of the £30,000.plus caravans and tow cars around the 70K mark im sure its done quite a lot.

Posted on 13/03/2018 07:39

We have a c£30k caravan if all the gear is included ie awning, mover, leisure battery, bedding, utensils, crockery, chairs etc. We tow with a  from new £70K+ list price tow car, as was the last one, but we didn't pay anywhere near full price for either of them cool

We are the new family adventurers the CAMC are targeting. But we don't pay £30 to stay a few hours later. We do pay for a pitch from 12:00 arrival time, but are unable to take our daughter out of school early on the arrival day to get to a site for that time. If we use this past weekend as example, we got stuck in traffic on Friday after leaving home after school time for an initial 1h15m journey that took 4h.30m so we had paid for the pitch from 12:00 and only occupied it from 20:00.

Should we ask for a credit for the unused occupancy, or use it against a later departure?

As a family with school commitments staying late on a Sunday with the drive home on the crowded roads to our part of the effluent central south is not conducive to a relaxing experience, so is not done at all.

In summary, the perceived 'price' of the unit bares no relationship to the reality of caravanning by the new adventurers the CAMC want to attract. 

Are we stupid? Or realistic cool

 

cyberyacht replied on 13/03/2018 08:01

Posted on 12/03/2018 17:24 by

I am not sure that 'You shall not covet your neighbor’s house. You shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, or his male or female servant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor' is really essential mind.

Posted on 13/03/2018 08:01

XC90, Toureg, Porsche 911 in lieu of donkey. I'm sure you get the drift. wink

Cornersteady replied on 13/03/2018 08:13

Posted on 12/03/2018 21:16 by onepjg

but, if you think about it carefully there is a huge difference between a Sainsburys car park and the approach road to a site which is why they don't come and ask you to leave.

I agree CS, the biggest difference is that the site has, generally, loads of  empty pitches just waiting for my van !!

You talk about blocking roads, entrances etc, and on certain sites that is a fair point. But you never mention the majority of sites, where there are LNA or parking available. And it still doesn’t alter the fact that if the CAMC let you in, there would be no issues. 

As for the law / cash waving bit you seem to be forgetting one very important point, the site is already open. I can just picture you standing at the closed door of Sainsbury’s, vainly waving your money in the air, whilst lots of other people wondered around inside, shopping and then walking out the door. I suspect if it happened to you, you probably wouldn’t be impressed. 

Posted on 13/03/2018 08:13

I agree CS, the biggest difference is that the site has, generally, loads of empty pitches just waiting for my van !!

Generally loads of empty pitches? have you been to a club site in peak? Certainly not generally there

You talk about blocking roads, entrances etc, and on certain sites that is a fair point. But you never mention the majority of sites, where there are LNA or parking available. And it still doesn’t alter the fact that if the CAMC let you in, there would be no issues

The club has said that the LNA are exactly that - late night arrivals. On the sites I've been to they hold at best three outfits, and actually mostly two and of course they could be actually in use? So you still have the potential to cause a large back up. Also what parking are you talking about? Car parks certainly won't take anything like an outfit as they are usually a dead end and in use?  Why should they let you in? The current rules are 12/1pm and the site may be full? (as as often happens o club sites)

As for the law / cash waving bit you seem to be forgetting one very important point, the site is already open. I can just picture you standing at the closed door of Sainsbury’s, vainly waving your money in the air, whilst lots of other people wondered around inside, shopping and then walking out the door. I suspect if it happened to you, you probably wouldn’t be impressed.

You keep changing the goal post here, firstly it was the law stopping you getting in, then when that was overcome, you bring this idea that the supermarket is already open? Most business have a set opening time. But to go with your analogy, it could be that the supermarket is full? huge queues at the checkout? So they stop people coming in, happens on cinemas and theme parks? Or they could say to me, sorry but these people have paid to be in, it's a special deal. But of course that's the real difference isn't it, no one pays to enter a supermarket and you can stay all day free, you have to pay to stay on a site I believe? Also it wouldn't bother me in the slightest, it's their supermarket, their rules, if I want to go in and buy their products then I have to go along with their rule. Of course I'll go on their website and complain just like here (who wouldn't) or maybe go to Asda? Same with the club, it has it's set rules, you don't like them...

 

 

Cornersteady replied on 13/03/2018 08:21

Posted on 12/03/2018 20:18 by Tinwheeler

I don’t see if as throwing money away if you’re getting what you want in return. 

Throwing it away is when you get nothing back. 

Posted on 13/03/2018 08:21

yes +1. When working those extra 6 or 7 hours on a Sunday afternoon meant a lot, what was the point of being back home at 2pm thinking oh well weekend over, work tomorrowsurprised That extra night's fee was certainly worth it.

   

Cornersteady replied on 13/03/2018 08:23

Posted on 13/03/2018 08:01 by cyberyacht

XC90, Toureg, Porsche 911 in lieu of donkey. I'm sure you get the drift. wink

Posted on 13/03/2018 08:23

one of my neighbours actually has a nice asssmile

It's called Tobin btw

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