Pro's and con's for buying an electric vehicle

cariadon replied on 12/01/2018 12:06

Posted on 12/01/2018 12:06

After reading the posts, I don't think the EV is suitable for me. They are advertised as an Urban vehicle, which rules me out.

I am sure that city / large town dwellers, where the air is most polluted will welcome them.

 

JVB66 replied on 15/01/2018 18:38

Posted on 13/01/2018 14:43 by Navigateur

Probably better to read the details up yourself on the relevant web sites. 

Thanks for the answers so far. Web-sites don't answer questions, and dealer staff are worse informed than I am!

Posted on 15/01/2018 18:38

But Malc seems to take their word as gospalwink

ChemicalJasper replied on 15/01/2018 19:28

Posted on 15/01/2018 16:02 by brue

If you are interested the Radio 4 programme I mentioned a few pages back discusses all this. The idea is to get the energy from renewables which is what ecotricity is providing. Although some will argue that fuel is all mixed in at the moment the fuel used for EVs is programmed to come from as many renewables as possible.

Posted on 15/01/2018 19:28

'Ecotrickery' run whole fleets of cash pumps, disguised as wind turbines.

They are amazingly efficient at hoovering up government subsidies which are paid for by all of us, including grannies in fuel poverty, to make Dale Vince a multimillionaire (currently over £100 million) under a mildly green badge, rather than using tax payers money to fund healthcare / schools etc.

And I say mildly green, because he will not publish any of his generation figures, but a few years ago, the data from one site was leaked revealing a 16% efficiency, meaning the carbon from building the site would never even be offset during the sites 20 year predicted service! 

 

   

KjellNN replied on 15/01/2018 20:10

Posted on 15/01/2018 18:14 by brue

But you've invested in PVs for a reason I think Kj!? We have a huge amount of solar power down here. In Scotland you have hydroelectrics which produce 12% of your energy. So renewables play a big part across the UK and no doubt will expand in the future. The gov wants energy for EVs to come from renewables.

Posted on 15/01/2018 20:10

2 reasons.....

It helps to keep our domestic bills down, important as we probably use a lot more power up here than those who live further south.

While interest rates are low, we reckon it will eventually  give us a better return than just leaving the money in the bank, even though it will take 8-9 years to break even.

 

cyberyacht replied on 15/01/2018 20:18

Posted on 15/01/2018 20:18

The only consistent renewable come rain, shine or wind is tidal. That doesn't seem to be getting the R&D like the other stuff.

Thewanderer replied on 15/01/2018 20:24

Posted on 12/01/2018 15:27 by cariadon

Do we know the life of a battery, is it 3 year or 10years. How much will it cost, £100 or £500 , do you know?

Posted on 15/01/2018 20:24

The battery on the Nissan Leaf is guaranteed for five years. Replacement £5000 or there about. None ha been replaced in the UK since the Leafs introduction in 2011.

brue replied on 15/01/2018 20:31

Posted on 15/01/2018 20:10 by KjellNN

2 reasons.....

It helps to keep our domestic bills down, important as we probably use a lot more power up here than those who live further south.

While interest rates are low, we reckon it will eventually  give us a better return than just leaving the money in the bank, even though it will take 8-9 years to break even.

 

Posted on 15/01/2018 20:31

Likewise with our purchase of an EV Kj, an initial outlay but retaining an asset we can resell if needed. We are saving £150 per month in fuel, over the next ten years this could mean £18,000 in savings plus we have a car that is costing us virtually nothing after purchase. Our electricity bills haven't increased much either because we run the car at it's optimum performance  level. smile

 

Metheven replied on 15/01/2018 20:36

Posted on 15/01/2018 20:24 by Thewanderer

The battery on the Nissan Leaf is guaranteed for five years. Replacement £5000 or there about. None ha been replaced in the UK since the Leafs introduction in 2011.

Posted on 15/01/2018 20:36

Too sweeping a statement seeing there are two options.

The 24kW battery pack on the Leaf is guaranteed for 5 years but the 30kW pack is 8 years. 

jennyc replied on 15/01/2018 20:46

Posted on 15/01/2018 20:46

With somewhere in the region do £50 Bn in duty revenues claimed by the Govt, it’s an illusion that today’s low costs for gas/ electric motor vehicle power will remain cheap. The Govt can’t afford not to balance diminishing fossil fuel usage/ income in favour of electricity, in the long term. Fossil fuel conversion through power stations is about 33% efficient by the time it’s delivered to a charging point. Conversion in contemporary combustion engines is close to 50%. Which makes electricity as motor fuel a poor substitute - UNLESS - our electrical energy is supplied from green sources. BUT an ever increasing percentage of our electrical energy is imported, which in turn hides our carbon footprint. Ie if China makes the steel which we use, then they bear the CO2 burden of our own consumption. In reality, China’s per capita CO2 emissions are similar to the UK’s and Noway is a major source of our fossil fuel energy. In short, current propaganda re the future benefits of elecric vehical consumption is flawed under current production models. UK technology and energy distribution has a way to go before we should be ready to invest in battery powered cars - though they may become viable in the longer term, but cheap, never.

brue replied on 15/01/2018 20:53

Posted on 15/01/2018 20:53

But they are getting cheaper already and they are not being produced in the same way as i.c.e cars, their construction is different. Did you know BMWi3 door panels have hemp in them?.....car production as not seen before. The automotive industry is going through a huge change.

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