E-Scooters: I've seen it all now

JohnM20 replied on 10/12/2021 07:57

Posted on 10/12/2021 07:57

Whilst walking down the busy main corridor at the Royal Derby Hospital yesterday a guy in, I would say, his early twenties, (I'm 99% certain he wasn't staff), came out of the doors of one of the side clinics pushing an E-scooter. Once into the main corridor he promptly jumped on his scooter and proceeded to ride it, weaving through the people walking along the corridor. The corridor is not particularly wide and people are walking in both directions. Any one of them could have been hit by this idiot.

He had obviously ridden his scooter illegally to get to the hospital and then taken it in with him. Where was the hospital security? No where to be seen unfortunately.

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 18/12/2021 22:39

Posted on 18/12/2021 21:29 by davetommo

Have you ever tried to see down all of the side of an HGV there are small areas  that you don’t have a view of looking through the mirrors. As for turning your head it is not like a car, most of the vehicle does not have windows. Most HGV’s have a notice on the rear nearside warning of this.

Posted on 18/12/2021 22:39

In that case the trucking company should put extra mirrors so you can see. There is no excuse to take a life because there’s a blind spot. We can send a satellite to far flung planets & the Sun but we can’t see behind to save life because ‘it’s always been like that’🤷🏻‍♂️. Not clever. . .So not clever☹️

PS-a notice doesn’t absolve anyone of dangerous driving.

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 18/12/2021 22:45

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davetommo replied on 18/12/2021 22:50

Posted on 18/12/2021 22:39 by Rocky 2 buckets

In that case the trucking company should put extra mirrors so you can see. There is no excuse to take a life because there’s a blind spot. We can send a satellite to far flung planets & the Sun but we can’t see behind to save life because ‘it’s always been like that’🤷🏻‍♂️. Not clever. . .So not clever☹️

PS-a notice doesn’t absolve anyone of dangerous driving.

Posted on 18/12/2021 22:50

I can tell that you have no idea about trucks. Every truck on the road has blind spots. With an articulated vehicle if you don’t have it in a perfectly straight line, say you have the cab bit slightly to the right and it only takes a centimetre then you don’t see all the left side of the vehicle until you get it straight again.  Maybe with a little common sense some one on a cycle would not go past the nearside of a left turning truck.

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Rocky 2 buckets replied on 18/12/2021 23:05

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Posted on 18/12/2021 23:05

I have an opinion, one that differs from yours-constantly. However I am willing to debate, you do the whole attack thing as usual. I call it a caring attitude you disagree. Tis life🤷🏻‍♂️

Tinwheeler replied on 18/12/2021 23:06

Posted on 18/12/2021 22:50 by davetommo

I can tell that you have no idea about trucks. Every truck on the road has blind spots. With an articulated vehicle if you don’t have it in a perfectly straight line, say you have the cab bit slightly to the right and it only takes a centimetre then you don’t see all the left side of the vehicle until you get it straight again.  Maybe with a little common sense some one on a cycle would not go past the nearside of a left turning truck.

Posted on 18/12/2021 23:06

Isn’t that exactly why some transport operators now fit cameras to cover blind spots? There’s no longer a reason to take chances and hope for the best.

davetommo replied on 18/12/2021 23:08

Posted on 18/12/2021 23:06 by Tinwheeler

Isn’t that exactly why some transport operators now fit cameras to cover blind spots? There’s no longer a reason to take chances and hope for the best.

Posted on 18/12/2021 23:08

Only some not all. 

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Posted on 18/12/2021 23:06 by Tinwheeler

Isn’t that exactly why some transport operators now fit cameras to cover blind spots? There’s no longer a reason to take chances and hope for the best.

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Cornersteady replied on 19/12/2021 10:00

Posted on 19/12/2021 10:00

I think saying who is to blame legally or otherwise is not really the point in my view. The sad fact is that pedestrians and  cyclists will usually come off worse and who is to blame is no consolation at all for either party.

  • an average of 2 pedal cyclists died and 83 were seriously injured (adjusted) per week in reported road casualties
  • a majority of pedal cycle fatalities (59%) do not occur at or within 20m of a junction compared to 32% of all seriously injured (adjusted) casualties
  • almost half (46%) of pedal cycle fatalities in 2 vehicle accidents involved a car
  • 56% of pedal cycle fatalities occurred on rural roads compared to 29% of traffic
  • 83% of pedal cycle killed or seriously injured (KSI) casualties were male

I believe that there are just as 'many' poor drivers as there are 'poor' cyclists, it is not one or the other.

The most common contributory factor allocated to pedal cyclists in fatal or serious accidents (FSA) with another vehicle was ‘Driver or rider failed to look properly’. It was also the most common factor allocated to the other vehicles involved

In my view the new rules/laws in the code are there, or will be there, to ensure that there is greater separation and enhanced safety for all. If that means that drivers have to wait patiently to overtake and not cut cyclists off then I'm afraid that is what they will have to do. I certainly take a lot of care around cyclists knowing first hand who could happen by either party not paying enough attention. Following them, and as TDA says, knowing these rules hopefully will ensure those terrible statistics go down

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