E-Scooters: I've seen it all now

JohnM20 replied on 10/12/2021 07:57

Posted on 10/12/2021 07:57

Whilst walking down the busy main corridor at the Royal Derby Hospital yesterday a guy in, I would say, his early twenties, (I'm 99% certain he wasn't staff), came out of the doors of one of the side clinics pushing an E-scooter. Once into the main corridor he promptly jumped on his scooter and proceeded to ride it, weaving through the people walking along the corridor. The corridor is not particularly wide and people are walking in both directions. Any one of them could have been hit by this idiot.

He had obviously ridden his scooter illegally to get to the hospital and then taken it in with him. Where was the hospital security? No where to be seen unfortunately.

SeasideBill replied on 18/12/2021 21:12

Posted on 18/12/2021 14:35 by Vulcan

The most concerning of the new HC Rules is the one giving right of way for cyclists to overtake or undertake a vehicle that is indicating to turn left at a junction. I have often thought that a cyclist undertaking a vehicle that is indicating left is at the very least lacking in common sense however, it appears that the rule makers are as bad as the rule will require the vehicle driver indicating to turn left  to wait until there is a gap in the undertaking cyclists however many there are until completing the turn.

Posted on 18/12/2021 21:12

Some drivers and some cyclists are a dangerous combination. There are car drivers who don’t take enough care in respect of cyclists, but there’s no shortage of cyclists who act recklessly, especially in the big cities where both parties often have a bad attitude to each other. As for some Deliveroo riders…..don’t get me started!

dave the rave replied on 18/12/2021 21:13

Posted on 18/12/2021 21:02 by Rocky 2 buckets

I think that is called attempting to stop a cyclist being squished because some arrogant car driver believes they should use their vehicle as a weapon. All you need is to use mirrors or crazily-turn your head to ensure others safety. The rule makers are doing the intelligent thing, they are making a very good decision to help save life. 

Posted on 18/12/2021 21:13

If  cycle pilots decide to under take a vehicle that is signalling a left turn then they deserve to get hit!If cycle pilots decide to ride 2 abreast in the middle of a carriageway they are surely causing an obstruction on the Queens highway and should be prosecuted.This is yet another set of "rules" that have not been thought about correctly.

Tinwheeler replied on 18/12/2021 21:24

Posted on 18/12/2021 21:13 by dave the rave

If  cycle pilots decide to under take a vehicle that is signalling a left turn then they deserve to get hit!If cycle pilots decide to ride 2 abreast in the middle of a carriageway they are surely causing an obstruction on the Queens highway and should be prosecuted.This is yet another set of "rules" that have not been thought about correctly.

Posted on 18/12/2021 21:24

So it’s OK to hit a cyclist if you think he’s done something stupid, is it?

davetommo replied on 18/12/2021 21:29

Posted on 18/12/2021 21:02 by Rocky 2 buckets

I think that is called attempting to stop a cyclist being squished because some arrogant car driver believes they should use their vehicle as a weapon. All you need is to use mirrors or crazily-turn your head to ensure others safety. The rule makers are doing the intelligent thing, they are making a very good decision to help save life. 

Posted on 18/12/2021 21:29

Have you ever tried to see down all of the side of an HGV there are small areas  that you don’t have a view of looking through the mirrors. As for turning your head it is not like a car, most of the vehicle does not have windows. Most HGV’s have a notice on the rear nearside warning of this.

Wherenext replied on 18/12/2021 21:35

Posted on 18/12/2021 21:35

The Netherlands used to have awful accident/death statistics of cyclists killed and injured in road accidents in the years before the 1980s when they became more enlightened and started to introduce their fantastic bike lanes and change of attitude culture that they currently enjoy so it can be done but only if the governing body attempts to do it by bringing everyone on board and providing the finance.

Nowadays they have one of the safest environments to cycle in and I believe that if a motorist is involved in an accident with a  cyclist then the motorist is assumed to be the guilty party unless proven otherwise. I accept this last sentence may be hearsay but it was told to me by more than 1 Dutchman. I blame them if I'm wrong!!smile

SeasideBill replied on 18/12/2021 21:37

Posted on 18/12/2021 21:29 by davetommo

Have you ever tried to see down all of the side of an HGV there are small areas  that you don’t have a view of looking through the mirrors. As for turning your head it is not like a car, most of the vehicle does not have windows. Most HGV’s have a notice on the rear nearside warning of this.

Posted on 18/12/2021 21:37

Law or no law, it’s a daft cyclist that gets down the side of a HGV in the expectation that they’re visible. 

JVB66 replied on 18/12/2021 21:39

Posted on 18/12/2021 21:39

It does make one wonder who thought it a good idea to allow idiot cyclists,  who obey very few road rules,  to have right of way when passing, on the nearside, as some do at speed,  of a left turning large vehicle who's driver is trying to negotiate other traffic,

yell

davetommo replied on 18/12/2021 21:39

Posted on 18/12/2021 21:37 by SeasideBill

Law or no law, it’s a daft cyclist that gets down the side of a HGV in the expectation that they’re visible. 

Posted on 18/12/2021 21:39

I can assure you that there are a lot of daft cyclists then 

Vulcan replied on 18/12/2021 22:14

Posted on 18/12/2021 21:02 by Rocky 2 buckets

I think that is called attempting to stop a cyclist being squished because some arrogant car driver believes they should use their vehicle as a weapon. All you need is to use mirrors or crazily-turn your head to ensure others safety. The rule makers are doing the intelligent thing, they are making a very good decision to help save life. 

Posted on 18/12/2021 22:14

Quite honesly if you think it is arrogent to clearly indicate your intention to turn left and assume that a cyclist approaching from the rear will use a certain amount of common sense and sense of self preservation then you really should not be driving anything. As for "The rule makers are doing the intelligent thing", they have given up trying to enforce the rules and succumbed to a vociferous cycling lobby who are never satisfied, rules of the road should be the same for everyone.

replied on 18/12/2021 22:28

Posted on 18/12/2021 22:14 by Vulcan

Quite honesly if you think it is arrogent to clearly indicate your intention to turn left and assume that a cyclist approaching from the rear will use a certain amount of common sense and sense of self preservation then you really should not be driving anything. As for "The rule makers are doing the intelligent thing", they have given up trying to enforce the rules and succumbed to a vociferous cycling lobby who are never satisfied, rules of the road should be the same for everyone.

Posted on 18/12/2021 22:28

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