COVID - general discussion - Temp Locked

Regarding the change of vaccination policy I want to know who is lying.  A few weeks ago the OAZ vaccine would produce about 40% immunity around 21 days after the jab.  Now all of a sudden it's over 70%.  Magic.  Even JVT is choosing his words very carefully.  Only a clear statement from the MHRA will convince me one way or the other.  

Please ignore my post above.  It should read as below:

Regarding the change of vaccination policy I want to know who is lying. A few weeks ago the OAZ vaccine would produce about 40% immunity around 21 days after the first jab. Now all of a sudden it's over 70%. Magic. Even JVT is choosing his words very carefully. Only a clear statement from the MHRA will convince me one way or the other.

Re: the Snowdonia and Brecon Beacons situation, the example in parts of the Trossachs was that jokers were parking during the covid lockdown, here there and everywhere so much so that the emergency services were being prevented access to the roads. Result the local authority put in a fine of £80 per person and impound the car. Costs soon ramped up!

Same on Dartmoor Robsail, it's obviously been going on everywhere. Some very heavy snow might do the trick too!

Our snow sorted a few out yesterday, although to be fair, they were local walkers like us. (Tier 3) We passed at least five cars that had spun off the winding roads into fields (thick mud). And then were twice prevented from getting to our destination by cars stuck trying to get up hills but getting nowhere. We decided to park slightly away from where we wanted to be, and did a longer walk, but luckily the dog was having a ball so coped. We passed the car park at Roche where we had intended stopping, but there was a chain of cars going nowhere fast. The main thought was to rev like crazy and drive as fast as you could up the snowy hill. 

SIL lives in Bakewell (Tier 4) Locals aren’t going out it’s so full of day trippers from elsewhere. Plenty there stuck in snow as well.

Police in Matlock area complaining today about the Travellers coming into the White Peak area & getting stuck - 22 people inc kiddies rescued & taken to safety then shooed off home..

The way it was phrased it sounded as if they  were long distance travellers but, in truth, they were actually from around the Stockport area, which, until the fairly recent redrawing of the Manchester map, was also in Cheshire.  Bobbies were right in their comments but seemed to be over-egging the distances travelled somewhat, IMHO.

Seems events are moving so fast that we will get more restrictions today. Have no problem with tough rules and cant fathom why anyone is unaware of the basics by now. Again the rights of the individual needs to be superseded by the welfare of the whole at these times.

What I read was that it was around 44% a few weeks after but after 12 weeks it was around 65 or was it 56 (plus?) percent. Not sure which vaccine now but there was similar info on the video I posted earlier

Another Lockdown. Sensible and not before time. Also sensible to close schools and to cancel exams, otherwise very unfair to older students, at least, hopefully, there won't be the late uturn fiasco of last year. Now we just need everyone to actually follow the rules.

As an exercise it will be interesting to see what effect the National Lockdown in Wales has over the next few weeks. The lockdown started here on 21/12, so in theory we should over the next few days see infection rates reducing. Time will tell and we hope this bears out to give us all some respite from the incessant  bad news.