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I have to disagree on compulsion Wherenext 

Brue, isn't irony wonderful? There is a possibility that I may not qualify to have the jab as my immune system is compromised and nobody at either the Renal Unit in Wrexham or my GP can confirm if I would be excluded as yet.

Of course I could be advocating the mass inoculation of the public just in my own self interests. That's for others to judge.🤔😁

It is a very good point actually, many will be planning 2/3 month spring trips to overthere in carvans/Mh's etc, me included, and this could have a very severe impact on our plans, but like you, if we have to delay or cxl and do a staycation we will be more than happy just to have survived

rufs said.......For many years people have been pondering such a choice, many years ago i did some disaster relief work in the Phillipines, Typhoid was rife, a vaccine was available but many refused it undecided

Sadly, a quick look at the nation confirms it’s still not a healthy place. I haven’t driven down into the reasons why, but it’s a prime example of why not making the most of good opportunities isn’t the best option. Let’s hope UK population is a bit better informed and enabled about making the best choice👍 

"Sadly, a quick look at the nation confirms it’s still not a healthy place. I haven’t driven down into the reasons why,"

I know the reasons why, but not suitable for this forum

But yes , lets hope we can all pull together and even if we cannot erradicate this virus, make it manageable.

Aye, done a bit of reading. As you say, not permitted on this forum. Their case rate isn’t as bad as I expected though, mind could be lots of other stuff accounting for them!😱

Somewhat to my surprise, we remain Tier 3. Surrounded to the South by Tier 4 though. Our rates are best they have been for weeks. Can’t see that lasting sadly. Too many visitors and get togethers. Lots of big groups out walking, our local Park is not on our list of places to go at the moment. Or many of the lovely local walks.☹️

I was merely wondering what other peoples choices might be, particularly those travelling abroad.

Hi Wherenext, Apologies if I am missing something but in your post you said you could see it causing problems for people on holiday “like ME”??

 

Yes A&J. I have a tour of Scotland provisionally planned and booked for some of May and early June plus I'm taking my Mother-in-law and wife away to a cottage in Yorkshire in late June, so I can see that if I did have the first jab in February I could have a problem in managing to fulfil my plans. They would have to be curtailed somehow or even cancelled. 

A problem that others who have made plans for some of the early part of next year may also have.

I meant to add that Mrs WNs jab would happen after mine so that also could throw a spanner in the works.

Wherenext said:-

I am still unsure if the 12 weeks mentioned is due to Oxford AstraZenica data stating that that is the most efficient gap for efficacy or if it is a pure logistical break between jabs to enable the NHS to deliver them both.

I think the reasoning is that the first jab gives quite a high degree of protection (higher than the flu jab) The longer gap between doses allows far more people to be vaccinated and therefore provides more people with protection against the virus. I am not sure that considering people's holiday plans were even a consideration The idea of longer gaps between jabs has been around for some weeks and has been suggested by a group of eminent scientists. Clearly the people that agree the vaccine support that view. I don't think it would have worked with the Pfizer vaccine as there just won't be enough of it.

David

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DK, your explanation is what I had heard. Trying to give as many folks as possible a degree of immunity, but giving the second dose within a time range. Something dog owners can relate to with boosters!

I think a lot of us will be in the starting gates to get away, both here in UK, and overseas. We have tentative plans, but depends on lots of things, only booking so far is for Tour of Britain.