COVID - general discussion - Temp Locked

We did the same with one of our children David, the subsequent Whooping Cough was far worse than the skin condition that made us think she shouldn't have the vaccination. But I think there will be some who will have to opt out from the Covid vac, certainly anyone who is pregnant will have a very difficult choice, hopefully not too many in the general public will be faced with a similar difficulty but there will be some.

It's all going to take a long time, three weeks to develop immunity and 4-12 weeks between jabs, a logistical mountain.

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I sadly don’t share the optimism that the vast majority of folks who can have the vaccination, will actually have it. There have been lots of debates on Channel 4 with different groups, many of whom have put forward some not very rationale thinking behind their decision. I am sure they believe it makes sense within their peer group sphere, but it’s not always particularly well thought out or informed thinking. Very, very hard to change entrenched views, that’s where a different kind of persuasion might be necessary, for example not able to get travel insurance etc.....

Would we want to welcome hundreds of thousands of none vaccinated visitors into the UK? That’s a question to mull over. Vice versa with Brits visiting elsewhere as well? It’s a global pandemic, be great if the response could be global as well.

I don’t have any issues with monetary sanctions, sometimes it can concentrate the mind into making a better informed choice. 

It’s two simple jabs to save a life, get back to a degree of better living. I am certain that many in 3rd World and war torn nations, unlikely to have the opportunities we have in the next few weeks, must look on in disbelief that anyone can ponder on such a choice. Time to be thankful we are where we are.

 

As I don’t use emojis I cannot be sure if you are joking?

In the midst of discussing sanctions for people who won’t have the vaccine I can’t believe that you are suggesting a holiday may take precedence, so will presume that you aren’t.

The twelve weeks gap between first and second jab is only the same as hospital appointments,  Work Round IT

it is something that quite a few do already

I don’t think WN is doing any other than pointing out holiday dates may clash with the due date of the second jab.

Emojis are very obvious in their meaning but you can find details on the internet if in doubt.👍🏻

I don’t have any doubt WN would put health above holiday, and is joking👍😁 but it’s been patently obvious that some folks (not on here) have made what some of us might consider astoundingly selfish choices. Not least the Brits who deserted that Ski village in the last few days. 

If a lot more had exercised a degree of self restraint, we might not have had the case rate and death toll this country has seen sadly.

Not joking at all A&J. Being someone whose life expectancy would be in the low percentages if I caught the darned thing I would definitely put health first. I have for that very reason chosen not to travel abroad until I am certain that most of the population, both here and abroad will have had the vaccine. Maybe towards the end of next year, if not then 2022.

I was merely wondering what other peoples choices might be, particularly those travelling abroad.

I am still unsure if the 12 weeks mentioned is due to Oxford AstraZenica data stating that that is the most efficient gap for efficacy or if it is a pure logistical break between jabs to enable the NHS to deliver them both.

ps - just as an aside, the emoji used is not one that I normally use but is next to the "I am annoyed one" that I meant to but didn't notice until your post.

You should wake up and smell the coffee,

"it’s two simple jabs to save a life, get back to a degree of better living. I am certain that many in 3rd World and war torn nations, unlikely to have the opportunities we have in the next few weeks, must look on in disbelief that anyone can ponder on such a choice."

For many years people have been pondering such a choice, many years ago i did some disaster relief work in the Phillipines, Typhoid was rife, a vaccine was available but many refused it