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replied on 30/12/2020 12:38
Posted on 30/12/2020 12:11 by TakethedogalongJust thought I would post an update on Mum’s first Covid vaccine jab. I appreciate that most folks on here are sensible, rational and are likely to give a deal of thought into most things, but if it helps anyone wavering over a decision as to whether or not to have the vaccine, then I hope it helps.
Mum is nearly 92, physically not to bad, but has dementia, so needs a lot of daily help. She has done really well this year, but of course some of her favourite things to do haven’t been possible. No shopping trips, only one carefully controlled short holiday, no seeing her few remaining friends, no contact with other members of family other than us, her two daughters, and son in law.
She waited patiently in line for around 10 minutes, with a hall spaced but full of similar aged folks, many much frailer than her. The air of excitement was astonishing, they all felt that at last it was happening, a first step to getting back to a degree of normality. Answered a few basic questions, made sure of identity, then it was sleeve up, ten seconds of painless needle, sleeve down, thank you for coming, and then a short sit down, (much like you do when giving blood), a leaflet to read about possible side effects. Didn’t see anyone at all making a fuss, having any problems at all. They all just got on with it.
We have kept a close eye on Mum over Christmas, looking for anything out of ordinary. Happy to report, not a thing. Not even any ache at Site of injection, no temperature, nothing. She is well up for her second dose, counting down the days. We can’t wait until we are all sorted, and can then try and do a bit more, rules permitting.
All I can say, is if you can have the jab, (nothing medical preventing it) then it’s a positive step, and not one to worry over. Hope this helps👍
Wherenext replied on 30/12/2020 13:30
Posted on 30/12/2020 13:30
We have quite a few elderly people living nearby and I haven't met a single one who isn't looking forward to having the vaccine.
This generation grew up with illnesses and diseases that have virtually been eradicated due to vaccines and improvements in medicine, such as Polio and Typhoid, Ricketts and Smallpox etc. For sure Big Pharma didn't cover itself in glory with Thalidomide and some of that generation still harbour doubts about vaccination, which we see in refusal for Rubella jabs, for example. Nevertheless this virus is serious business and I agree with AD that there should be some consequence for those that can have the vaccine but point blank refuse. The overall health of a Nation comes well before their interest.
Having the freedoms that we do have come with responsibility and if people refuse to take personal responsibility then the state should step in when those peoples inactions could cause death to others.
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brue replied on 30/12/2020 13:45
Posted on 30/12/2020 13:45
I have to disagree on compulsion Wherenext and regarding Spain, mentioned by AD I can remember the Franco era with armed soldiers watching people on the the streets, there may still be a remnant of that over there. Once we get a certain percentage vaccinated this will offer enough protection. Vaccines are rarely 100% effective so it depends on numbers and apart from those who can't have the vaccine I would imagine the voluntary uptake will be enough to stem the outbreak. But who knows, we've been hit by something deadly and it's going to take a very long time to see a worldwide recovery.
Good to hear about your Mum TDA, it will be good when we start hearing about lots more having the vaccination.
replied on 30/12/2020 14:03
Posted on 30/12/2020 13:45 by brueI have to disagree on compulsion Wherenext and regarding Spain, mentioned by AD I can remember the Franco era with armed soldiers watching people on the the streets, there may still be a remnant of that over there. Once we get a certain percentage vaccinated this will offer enough protection. Vaccines are rarely 100% effective so it depends on numbers and apart from those who can't have the vaccine I would imagine the voluntary uptake will be enough to stem the outbreak. But who knows, we've been hit by something deadly and it's going to take a very long time to see a worldwide recovery.
Good to hear about your Mum TDA, it will be good when we start hearing about lots more having the vaccination.
brue replied on 30/12/2020 14:20
Posted on 30/12/2020 14:20
How about being positive and recognising that most will want the vaccine and the higher percentage that take it up the better the herd immunity. I think it's around 95% needed, so I'm sure we'll reach that target if the system runs well.
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Rufs replied on 30/12/2020 15:49
Posted on 30/12/2020 15:49
Amazing, !!!, when this covid thing kicked off many moons ago, i suggested using the army to focus minds on lock down etc and was castigated for even suggesting we should become more focused on this as in countries such as Spain, South Korea, Australia, and here we are suggesting
"How about stopping benefits"
that will go down well then, when the children of those parents you have just stopped their benefits have no food on the table
"cancelling passports or driving licences?
so will this if dad makes a living from driving public transport or is a long distance continental driver
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Cornersteady replied on 30/12/2020 15:51
Posted on 30/12/2020 14:03 byIt's not going to compulsory even in Spain but by recording those who refuse there are plenty of alternatives to armed soldiers How about stopping benefits, cancelling passports or driving licences? That would concentrate minds There people now who were damaged by the MMR conspirasists and it should not be allowed to happen again
Posted on 30/12/2020 15:51
I'm all for the vaccine and can't wait to get to get it and for everyone else so that we can all get back to normal and our trips away.
However I wouldn't want my heath and safety bought at such a high price by the state effectively forcing people to take the vaccine against their own wishes and causing any suffering, like from withholding benefits, that would be caused by the methods you suggest.
I think as Brue says enough will want to take it anyway.
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replied on 30/12/2020 16:01
Posted on 30/12/2020 15:49 by RufsAmazing, !!!, when this covid thing kicked off many moons ago, i suggested using the army to focus minds on lock down etc and was castigated for even suggesting we should become more focused on this as in countries such as Spain, South Korea, Australia, and here we are suggesting
"How about stopping benefits"
that will go down well then, when the children of those parents you have just stopped their benefits have no food on the table
"cancelling passports or driving licences?
so will this if dad makes a living from driving public transport or is a long distance continental driver
replied on 30/12/2020 16:05
Posted on 30/12/2020 15:51 by CornersteadyI'm all for the vaccine and can't wait to get to get it and for everyone else so that we can all get back to normal and our trips away.
However I wouldn't want my heath and safety bought at such a high price by the state effectively forcing people to take the vaccine against their own wishes and causing any suffering, like from withholding benefits, that would be caused by the methods you suggest.
I think as Brue says enough will want to take it anyway.
Cornersteady replied on 30/12/2020 16:11
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