Why not standardise check in & depart times?

TB22 replied on 27/08/2021 22:12

Posted on 27/08/2021 22:12

I'm sure this has been posted before but isn't it about time the Club standardise check in time.. and introduced a standard process . Its so frustrating that sites seem to have a multitude of arrival and depart times . Surely anyone leaving can get off pitch by 11am at the latest . Thus leaving a clear hour for narrow approach roads etc . All new  arrivals then know mid-day is a fixed time no matter what site you choose. This makes most difference to those on first day as the extra hour for pitching  is nice to have .  Wardens can open and close toilet blocks etc to suit the site and the staff . Why is that not possible ?

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cyberyacht replied on 29/08/2021 07:56

Posted on 29/08/2021 07:56

JVB used Black Knowl as an illustration, 11:30/13:00.

One has to ask why? The access lane from the Ober Corner car park point is only 200m long and even that has sufficient space for passing on the bend half way along. 

Another point raised is the disparity between minimal staffing levels on CAMC sites and larger workforces on some commercials and "over there" as reasons for the access timings. That being the case, since staffing is the greatest cost of any organisation, why are many commercials and the vast majority of  "over there" sites cheaper than CAMC?

ISTM that it's a case of "we've always done it this way"

young thomas replied on 29/08/2021 09:10

Posted on 28/08/2021 19:52 by moulesy

"I'm on a uk commercial site now... The earliest arrival on the email was 14:00. Hopeless.

so I phoned and said I wanted to arrive earlier...the receptionist said that all departures were off by 11:00 so I could come any time after that!!"

Ooh, you little devil,  BB. That's the second time, then, that you've booked at a UK commercial site,  knowing full well their t&c and then expected "special" treatment.  surprised

Posted on 29/08/2021 09:10

M, the point is (as David posted out earlier) arrivals coming to fill vacated pitches doesn't cause the site to implode...

in the case of this commercial, surely a customer is entitled to ask if they can make use of that 3 hrs between last off and first on?

i did this, there was no logical reason the office could think of and they welcomed me to arrive after 11.

not only that, the arriving road and the departing road are completely separate....

perhaps they could revise their T/C following a bit of customer feedback?

ill let you know.

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young thomas replied on 29/08/2021 09:19

Posted on 28/08/2021 20:08 by Wherenext

I don't have any "selfish requirements" JVB. I'll turn up after the appointed time, no problem. Plus I'll happily turn up at any time when touring abroad if that is allowed. I take the "When in Rome" route everytime.

However I do agree with BB if he is suggesting the CAMC is slow to take on board other ways of doing things. It seems that most things are done to a set template regardless of whether another idea has merit.

Posted on 29/08/2021 09:19

Wholeheartedly agree with your post WN, we do the same....abide by the 'rules'.

however, in noticing a 3 hr time gap on a site with separate entry and exit routes one has to think 'why?'

so I rang them and asked....and they didn't know 'why'....probably because they had always done it that way?

once the subject was raised, they said they could see no reason not to arrive after the last departure.

 

 

JVB66 replied on 29/08/2021 09:28

Posted on 29/08/2021 07:56 by cyberyacht

JVB used Black Knowl as an illustration, 11:30/13:00.

One has to ask why? The access lane from the Ober Corner car park point is only 200m long and even that has sufficient space for passing on the bend half way along. 

Another point raised is the disparity between minimal staffing levels on CAMC sites and larger workforces on some commercials and "over there" as reasons for the access timings. That being the case, since staffing is the greatest cost of any organisation, why are many commercials and the vast majority of  "over there" sites cheaper than CAMC?

ISTM that it's a case of "we've always done it this way"

Posted on 29/08/2021 09:28

The lane with the speed humps from the main road is far longer than the two hundred metres undecided

Which is very narrow to pass which is why the times are in placeundecided

Can you advise of the pay rates and how many of the family are involved with many sites over the channel?

You from you previous work? would I would have thought, have more knowledge of the differences in why it is at times(off peak)when those who say it is cheaper.? over the channel

 

Twos more then one replied on 29/08/2021 09:36

Posted on 29/08/2021 09:36

I agree with the hour difference between leaving ,and arrival time say leave at 11.30, and arrive 12.30
On arrival times, there is no excuse for arriving more then 10 minutes early, with all the traffic navigation  and routing solutions available 

JVB66 replied on 29/08/2021 09:47

Posted on 29/08/2021 09:36 by Twos more then one

I agree with the hour difference between leaving ,and arrival time say leave at 11.30, and arrive 12.30
On arrival times, there is no excuse for arriving more then 10 minutes early, with all the traffic navigation  and routing solutions available 

Posted on 29/08/2021 09:47

Many commercial sites will have 1100dep  and 1400arivals unless you as has been noted on here, you ring the site for special treatment to arrive early

 

SteveL replied on 29/08/2021 09:52

Posted on 29/08/2021 07:56 by cyberyacht

JVB used Black Knowl as an illustration, 11:30/13:00.

One has to ask why? The access lane from the Ober Corner car park point is only 200m long and even that has sufficient space for passing on the bend half way along. 

Another point raised is the disparity between minimal staffing levels on CAMC sites and larger workforces on some commercials and "over there" as reasons for the access timings. That being the case, since staffing is the greatest cost of any organisation, why are many commercials and the vast majority of  "over there" sites cheaper than CAMC?

ISTM that it's a case of "we've always done it this way"

Posted on 29/08/2021 09:52

Another point raised is the disparity between minimal staffing levels on CAMC sites and larger workforces on some commercials and "over there" as reasons for the access timings. That being the case, since staffing is the greatest cost of any organisation, why are many commercials and the vast majority of "over there" sites cheaper than CAMC?

Some commercials are cheaper, some are dearer. Perhaps not dearer for you and I, but add in all the optional extras and they can be significantly more expensive.
Not really relevant, as we are in the UK section. However over there at ACSI way cheaper, even without the card out of season they are less, but have you seen some of their peak prices.😱

SteveL replied on 29/08/2021 10:06

Posted on 29/08/2021 09:47 by JVB66

Many commercial sites will have 1100dep  and 1400arivals unless you as has been noted on here, you ring the site for special treatment to arrive early

 

Posted on 29/08/2021 10:06

Even CAMC sites are accommodating. I wouldn’t have rung for it, but the day before we were due at Morvich, we received a confusing email about amending our booking, which we hadn’t done. I rang the site to check and it had been generated and sent accidentally when  they were sorting the VAT discount. As an aside I just checked the arrival time and was told although 1pm, I could arrive any time after 12:00. Due to delays we arrived about 12:30.😀

moulesy replied on 29/08/2021 10:16

Posted on 29/08/2021 09:10 by young thomas

M, the point is (as David posted out earlier) arrivals coming to fill vacated pitches doesn't cause the site to implode...

in the case of this commercial, surely a customer is entitled to ask if they can make use of that 3 hrs between last off and first on?

i did this, there was no logical reason the office could think of and they welcomed me to arrive after 11.

not only that, the arriving road and the departing road are completely separate....

perhaps they could revise their T/C following a bit of customer feedback?

ill let you know.

ps....which heading in the book have you logged 'BB special attention at commercials'?

Posted on 29/08/2021 10:16

Oh, BB, you do get all defensive at even the mildest bit of teasing don't you?  frown

But given your prodigious memory of all things CT (no little  lack book needed for you, eh?) I'm sure you'll recall that I was long in agreement about the case for more flexible arrival/departure arrangements on most CT sites? (Not that it matters to us nowadays, we can arrive down here 24 hours a day, whenever it suits!)

Mind you, given my, arguably, equally prodigious memory (no, I don't have a little black book), I'm sure I remember early arrivals as being amongst your characteristics of "the selfish few"!  laughing

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