UK sites with metered electricity

eurortraveller replied on 11/11/2021 09:59

Posted on 11/11/2021 09:59

Can people please post some examples of UK sites where electricity.usage is metered.

The one I know of is Pier Collage on the waterside at Coniston - a family owned site with 15 pitches . The system there is to pay on departure for the amount of electricity used, but other sites sell pre paid cards on arrival, so comments on the different ways of working may be helpful.

Likes and dislikes will inevitably crop up - they always do on here - but I was rather looking for practical ways of working. 

 

Metheven replied on 17/11/2021 11:43

Posted on 17/11/2021 11:43

As for outfits using 20Kw or 10Kw that would be impossible. 10Kw would draw over 40amps and 20Kw over 80amps.

How so? the post relates to a days usage, and quite possible to have the 2kW heater running for 10 hours or whatever in the depths of winter.

peedee replied on 17/11/2021 11:50

Posted on 17/11/2021 11:50

Whether you use 900w or 2Kw to maintain a set temperature is irrelevent. What it really means is the 900w heater will be on longer than the 2Kw one. End result is more than likely they consume the same power (Kwh) for an identically insulated van.

Thanks Whittakerr for pointing out the obvious regarding site metering. In terms of consumption we are talking Kwh (units) rather than outright power drawn otherwise I agree even 4Kw would trip a 16A outlet

peedee

 

 

Whittakerr replied on 17/11/2021 11:57

Posted on 17/11/2021 11:43 by Metheven

As for outfits using 20Kw or 10Kw that would be impossible. 10Kw would draw over 40amps and 20Kw over 80amps.

How so? the post relates to a days usage, and quite possible to have the 2kW heater running for 10 hours or whatever in the depths of winter.

Posted on 17/11/2021 11:57

Then the units should be Kw/h which is the amount of power used in 1 hour and not Kw which is a power rating. To be even clearer it should be Kw/h per day, as in 80Kw/h per day.

young thomas replied on 17/11/2021 12:16

Posted on 17/11/2021 10:19 by Cornersteady

despite what some say on here, 900w is pitiful to try and heat a large MH or caravan when it's freezing outside..

I disagree, I've now idea about heating a MH and wouldn't resume to talk about them and perhaps a MH with all that glass in front to lose heat out would be pitiful? We have always had a large 6 six berth caravan and after warm up 900W is more than enough. In fact the heat thermostat is often at 3 out of 5 otherwise we're too warm, and yes that was was it was cold enough to freeze the water tap at the bollard.

I am certain you know what you talking about for MH but as you have never owned a caravan or even stayed in one how do you know?

Posted on 17/11/2021 12:16

Ive stayed in many caravans, actually. Doesnt change my view

Youve twice said 'after warm up'....what do you 'warm up' the van with?

yes,  900w can maintain heat but ill wager it will find it a struggle to heat a stone cold caravan or MH to a comfortable temp when its below freezing outside.

we have underfloor heating, double floor insulation but heating from stone cold is asking a lot from 900w...

Just my opinion.

Cornersteady replied on 17/11/2021 12:22

Posted on 17/11/2021 12:16 by young thomas

Ive stayed in many caravans, actually. Doesnt change my view

Youve twice said 'after warm up'....what do you 'warm up' the van with?

yes,  900w can maintain heat but ill wager it will find it a struggle to heat a stone cold caravan or MH to a comfortable temp when its below freezing outside.

we have underfloor heating, double floor insulation but heating from stone cold is asking a lot from 900w...

Just my opinion.

Posted on 17/11/2021 12:22

We warm up the van with 1900Kw. Normally takes about an hour, after that all 900W even when freezing outside for the rest of our stay.

Yes it will struggle to heat a stone cold caravan but that's why I said after it being warmed up, I thought I had made that clear

Again your outfit is a MH.

Cornersteady replied on 17/11/2021 12:29

Posted on 17/11/2021 11:06 by SteveL

We have owned caravans, two of them. The first a 2004 Abbey, made by the Swift group, had the old truma blown air system with a convector fire below the wardrobe. This as well as keeping your coats lovely and warm, kept a fairly small van toasty on 900watts, once everything was warmed up, in all but the coldest weather. I don’t know what the insulation level was but the van was old style construction.

Our modern construction much larger 2014 Unicorn Cadiz with Alde heating was much different. Although the heating generally kept it lovely and warm, it did need the 2KW setting in cold weather. Otherwise it wouldn’t maintain 22C day 18C night.

Our MH has a Truma combi blown air, in cold weather 900watts isn’t sufficient to keep it pleasantly warm and the E2 1.8 KW setting is required. As long as the silver screen is used, I don’t think we loose a lot through the screen and front side windows. Overall I think we have less window area than our  Cadiz. 

Posted on 17/11/2021 12:29

Ours is a truma blown air like your first one but no convector fire and yes it does keep us warm at the 900W setting as I've said. We probably know that our next caravan will have Alde heating but it's interesting what you've said about it.  

Cornersteady replied on 17/11/2021 12:30

Posted on 17/11/2021 11:43 by Metheven

As for outfits using 20Kw or 10Kw that would be impossible. 10Kw would draw over 40amps and 20Kw over 80amps.

How so? the post relates to a days usage, and quite possible to have the 2kW heater running for 10 hours or whatever in the depths of winter.

Posted on 17/11/2021 12:30

Yes sorry I missed out a h in the Kwh. Still the same idea applies. 

Cornersteady replied on 17/11/2021 12:33

Posted on 17/11/2021 11:50 by peedee

Whether you use 900w or 2Kw to maintain a set temperature is irrelevent. What it really means is the 900w heater will be on longer than the 2Kw one. End result is more than likely they consume the same power (Kwh) for an identically insulated van.

Thanks Whittakerr for pointing out the obvious regarding site metering. In terms of consumption we are talking Kwh (units) rather than outright power drawn otherwise I agree even 4Kw would trip a 16A outlet

peedee

 

 

Posted on 17/11/2021 12:33

Wasn't really that obvious PD to me, and sorry but I can only reply to what you post? Was it single pitches or all pitches? If you meant all pitches then apologies but it wasn't clear, at least to me 

I would think the Club does not know what the typical pitch usage is for the seasons unless they measure pitch consumption separately from site consumption. Unlikely in my view

Maybe there are separate meters for pitches and one for places such as the wardens' house/office, shower block? Would it make that much difference? A site is a site.

Are you going to use club sites less now the club isn't thankfully going down the metering route?

 

young thomas replied on 17/11/2021 13:07

Posted on 17/11/2021 13:07

"We warm up the van with 1900Kw". No wonder it warms up quickly...undecided

im sure you meant 1800w or 1.8kw or the EL2 setting?

my point was clearly referring to heating up from stone cold, not after 'warming up'....with nuclear power😉

Cornersteady replied on 17/11/2021 13:17

Posted on 17/11/2021 13:07 by young thomas

"We warm up the van with 1900Kw". No wonder it warms up quickly...undecided

im sure you meant 1800w or 1.8kw or the EL2 setting?

my point was clearly referring to heating up from stone cold, not after 'warming up'....with nuclear power😉

Posted on 17/11/2021 13:17

lol, yes and 1.8 Kw. embarassed 

I would say it wasn't clear that was what you were referring to as you posted no mention of heating from cold:

despite what some say on here, 900w is pitiful to try and heat a large MH or caravan when it's freezing outside..,

still you've made it clear it now so all is wellsmile

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