UK sites with metered electricity

Posted on 15/11/2021 21:01 by DavidKlyne

It does seem strange that there is no plan. Also thanks to Peedee for reminding us what was said four years ago and there doesn't seem to be any change since?

I suppose the club have three possible options.

1) They can continue to just add any increased utility costs to the site fees. Depending on the volatility of the energy market this could go unseen by many members as there is no correlation between rising energy costs and rising site fees that is published.

2) They could dampen demand for electricity by limiting the number of amps that are available to either 6 or 10. I suspect that would go over the heads of many members and probably cause more work for the wardens in trying to explain why they can no longer use the electrical items they once could. Whilst some members have said they can manage of a lower number of amps, something you are often forced to do when abroad, I suspect many members would prefer the easy life of not having to think about it?

3) They could introduce electricity metering which even the Club acknowledge would be the fairest way of charging for energy. Although in the longer term this would be the best option, logistically it is not without its problems. Even if the Club decided to go ahead it would be impossible to complete the task over a relatively short time so for quite a while you would have differences across the network. So anyone of a tour could encounter both metered and non-metered sites on a regular basis. Whichever way you look at it the cost would be massive and probably drain any refurbishment of sites budget for several years! We also don't know what will happen to our hobby in ten years time, will it be as popular as we get nearer to the point where ICE vehicles start to disappear? So its going to be a brave person who makes that decision?

David

Posted on 16/11/2021 08:48 by young thomas

I'm sure many folk who've been used to a 16a supply don't have a clue that their 2kw kettle draws nearly 9a or a 3kw domestic one draws 13+amps.

even on a seemingly unlimited 16a supply, making the tea with either kettle with the heating on EL 2 (1800w 7.83 amp) will be either 17 or 20 amps...whoops.

many who have been used to a lower supply, carry either a 'gas hob' kettle or a 700w (3 amp) travel-type low wattage unit...we have both.

if folk can't understand that booking a non awning pitch pitch means they can't choose from the awning pitches too, what chance do they have of understanding why the bollard keeps tripping if the supply is reduced to, say, 10a?

i agree it will reduce overall usage but I also agree it will keep wardens (not) amused....

Posted on 16/11/2021 08:48 by young thomas

I'm sure many folk who've been used to a 16a supply don't have a clue that their 2kw kettle draws nearly 9a or a 3kw domestic one draws 13+amps.

even on a seemingly unlimited 16a supply, making the tea with either kettle with the heating on EL 2 (1800w 7.83 amp) will be either 17 or 20 amps...whoops.

many who have been used to a lower supply, carry either a 'gas hob' kettle or a 700w (3 amp) travel-type low wattage unit...we have both.

if folk can't understand that booking a non awning pitch pitch means they can't choose from the awning pitches too, what chance do they have of understanding why the bollard keeps tripping if the supply is reduced to, say, 10a?

i agree it will reduce overall usage but I also agree it will keep wardens (not) amused....

Posted on 15/11/2021 19:54 by nelliethehooker

We have no written policy to reduce our energy and utility costs

(from peedee's earlier post 're the club's responses from 2017)

Surely an organisation the size of the CC should have one of these as a minimum statement within it's policy documents?