UK sites with metered electricity

eurortraveller replied on 11/11/2021 09:59

Posted on 11/11/2021 09:59

Can people please post some examples of UK sites where electricity.usage is metered.

The one I know of is Pier Collage on the waterside at Coniston - a family owned site with 15 pitches . The system there is to pay on departure for the amount of electricity used, but other sites sell pre paid cards on arrival, so comments on the different ways of working may be helpful.

Likes and dislikes will inevitably crop up - they always do on here - but I was rather looking for practical ways of working. 

 

Cornersteady replied on 15/11/2021 08:03

Posted on 15/11/2021 08:03

I'm really not sure what reposting a statement from four years ago actually achieves or will achieve PD? In any case your last paragraph is somewhat incorrect. The club has acted by looking into putting in meters and produced this statement which I assume supersedes the 2017 one and saying what it will do in the future:

The fairest way to charge for electricity usage would be based on consumption, and this would also likely influence usage levels from a sustainability perspective. Unfortunately, the cost of infrastructure and subsequent monitoring and payment mechanisms are significantly cost prohibitive at this time. Having said this, the Club is constantly reviewing the technology and opportunities in this space in order to identify cost effective ways of being able to deliver this type of arrangement in the future.

Estimates of the prohibitive costs have been given by posters, £5 million is the top one, which I don't see anyone, including yourself, disputing.

Also in spite of the members and Club's concerns!. All the members? Really all of them? You are claiming to speak for all the members? It appears that it is not even true on (the very small sample that is) CT so where are you getting this from? 

The fact of matter is that it is not going to happen at this time, or in my view anytime soon, so either accept it or use more sites where metering happens?

 

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Cornersteady replied on 15/11/2021 08:40

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I am in agreement  with Cornersteady on this issue. The demand for metering  on this forum  comes almost entirely from motorhomers who see personal advantage in it and expect the costs to be picked up by others without their own portable "power station"  I have no sympathy for winter caravanners consuming huge amounts of power but this could very easily and cheaply be addressed  by dropping the supply to 6 or 8 amps. As one who has used metered sites and in spite of it rarely  costing me a cent I can assure anyone yet to do so it does nothing to improve the quality of the stay ,very much the opposite. Be careful what you wish for it's a PITA

Posted on 15/11/2021 08:40

Yes and I have said that the club should offer the option of EHU and of course look into any technology it can like solar panels not just for large items but for smaller outside lighting and signs. 

young thomas replied on 15/11/2021 09:04

Posted on 15/11/2021 09:04

There are many sides to this issue....

should the club be doing something to reduce its overall electric usage...

should vanners be doing something to reduce their overall electric usage..

should the club be giving its customers more choice as the the type of pitch (and level of service provision) its customers can purchase..

should the club be looking harder at the type of pitch it's newly acquired MH market might be interested in...

all the above leads to flexibility and choice..

we all understand that the 'best' pitch has electric, water, drainage etc but not everyone wants to trade this for the price being charged..

yes, we can all go elsewhere (as I will shortly) but a one size fits all might not be the 'best' solution for all customers.

folk kit their vans up to suit the way they tour, if that kit also enables the demand on the site to be less, then isn't that a good thing?

until electricity becomes the wonderful green, cheap fuel of the Gods then we might be doing a bit to reduce our usage of the bad stuff being sold to us at the moment.

however, it sounds like the club is quite happy to allow prices to rise to cover off their expenses, expenses that will continue to rise with the current policy.

plugging an iPhone into a USB 12v socket instead of a 13A mains one isn't hairshirt, neither is the TV being a 12v unit...they work just the same.

the thing is, a single panel on the roof of a van can provide the power needed to top up the battery to run these appliances without recourse to the hook up.

I just turn the tv on....it's always from the battery even when on mains....I can't call it hard work....it's the same single press of a button.

we use hookup in the winter but but not using it at other times, some of those reductions can be achieved without any 'sacrifice'...we just get used to plugging in the same way and this seems a difficult thing to change...

young thomas replied on 15/11/2021 09:35

Posted on 15/11/2021 09:35

...just to add a couple of other thoughts....

many vans (caravans and MH) come with a solar panel on the roof...in three of our seasons, so what can't we all make use of these rather than just rely on the club to 'make more use of solar'...collectively, we have more panels on our roofs than the club will ever do on one site....

just turning the mains charger off will see the battery being charged by the van's panel rather than the bollard and any power for water pump, lighting, tv, phone charging etc now comes from sunlight not the site's mains supply...how hard is that? If the EHU is still plugged in, mains only devices (microwave, cooker hot plate, hairdryer etc) can still be used...

a saving where it's easy and retained use of mains where necessary..best of both?

also, reducing the bollard breaker level, while being a simple tool to reduce usage, will need some 'getting used to'...again change, something that doesn't sit well...

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Posted on 15/11/2021 09:35 by young thomas

...just to add a couple of other thoughts....

many vans (caravans and MH) come with a solar panel on the roof...in three of our seasons, so what can't we all make use of these rather than just rely on the club to 'make more use of solar'...collectively, we have more panels on our roofs than the club will ever do on one site....

just turning the mains charger off will see the battery being charged by the van's panel rather than the bollard and any power for water pump, lighting, tv, phone charging etc now comes from sunlight not the site's mains supply...how hard is that? If the EHU is still plugged in, mains only devices (microwave, cooker hot plate, hairdryer etc) can still be used...

a saving where it's easy and retained use of mains where necessary..best of both?

also, reducing the bollard breaker level, while being a simple tool to reduce usage, will need some 'getting used to'...again change, something that doesn't sit well...

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SteveL replied on 15/11/2021 10:24

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Your forgetting the fridge , they absolutely eat gassurprised

Posted on 15/11/2021 10:24

Indeed the fairly large fridge freezer in our MH fairly gobbles it. I wouldn’t fancy running it on a Calor cylinder. It is indeed a shame they can’t vary amperage available. They could then set it at 6 amps for middle of June to middle of September and 10 amps at other times. Like you I wouldn’t want metering, an amperage reduction in my opinion would be a much better tool to cut excessive consumption.

Cornersteady replied on 15/11/2021 10:31

Posted on 15/11/2021 10:31

Looking at what EHU is actually used for on my caravan. The lights are all 12V so all the EHU is used for is the fridge, charging the battery, the power sockets of course but here all we use are chargers and power to the laptops, a tv very occasionally, kettle and toaster, hair dryer for the others and an electric hot plate/frying pan type thing. The main use for us is course heating and hot water but again apart from start up most of the time it is used at 900W setting. So personally I don't think reducing the amp would affect me at all. But again it is a cost and no one appears to know how much per bollard?

When we bought our caravan our model didn't come with a solar panel and any way to use timers but certainly our next one will and I think all LVs should be fitted with a SP as standard.

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