Smart Metering Trial

KieranBSMM replied on 05/04/2023 16:17

Posted on 05/04/2023 16:17

Exciting News! At Wyatts Covert Club Campsite we’re trialling Smart Metering, which means you will only pay for the amount of electricity you use during your stay.

The price quoted for bookings at this campsite excludes electricity (with campsite fees reduced accordingly) and we will only charge you for the precise amount of electricity you use during your stay.

This is something many members have been asking for and we’re really pleased to be able to trial it this year! Find out more at https://www.caravanclub.co.uk/smartmetering/ 

TobyLeeds replied on 29/04/2023 20:28

Posted on 29/04/2023 20:28

Metering seems an expensive way of monitoring and charging for the electricity used. When abroad we find 6 amp adequate (4 is not sufficient)  Why not charge a standard price for 6 amp. Anyone wanting more could pay for a new trip switch for either 10 amp or 13 amp. Switches could easily be changed by the warden, as happens on many continental sites , 

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Posted on 29/04/2023 20:28 by TobyLeeds

Metering seems an expensive way of monitoring and charging for the electricity used. When abroad we find 6 amp adequate (4 is not sufficient)  Why not charge a standard price for 6 amp. Anyone wanting more could pay for a new trip switch for either 10 amp or 13 amp. Switches could easily be changed by the warden, as happens on many continental sites , 

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Posted on 29/04/2023 20:28 by TobyLeeds

Metering seems an expensive way of monitoring and charging for the electricity used. When abroad we find 6 amp adequate (4 is not sufficient)  Why not charge a standard price for 6 amp. Anyone wanting more could pay for a new trip switch for either 10 amp or 13 amp. Switches could easily be changed by the warden, as happens on many continental sites , 

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DavidKlyne replied on 29/04/2023 23:25

Posted on 29/04/2023 20:28 by TobyLeeds

Metering seems an expensive way of monitoring and charging for the electricity used. When abroad we find 6 amp adequate (4 is not sufficient)  Why not charge a standard price for 6 amp. Anyone wanting more could pay for a new trip switch for either 10 amp or 13 amp. Switches could easily be changed by the warden, as happens on many continental sites , 

Posted on 29/04/2023 23:25

Depends where you are abroad? In Germany the majority of sites I have used have 16 amp availability but also many sites also have metering. Lowering the ampage available might be fine in the summer months but would not, I reckon, suit the majority at other times of year. I am also not convinced the Club would be wanting its site managers swapping electrical components in a site bollard due to H&S concerns? It could be done by having sophisticated switching systems in reception but that would take up more staff time and probably be as expensive as fitting a metering system. Unless you are going to keep the current free for all you have to go to metering which is becoming more common place as even CL's go that way.

David

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Posted on 29/04/2023 23:25 by DavidKlyne

Depends where you are abroad? In Germany the majority of sites I have used have 16 amp availability but also many sites also have metering. Lowering the ampage available might be fine in the summer months but would not, I reckon, suit the majority at other times of year. I am also not convinced the Club would be wanting its site managers swapping electrical components in a site bollard due to H&S concerns? It could be done by having sophisticated switching systems in reception but that would take up more staff time and probably be as expensive as fitting a metering system. Unless you are going to keep the current free for all you have to go to metering which is becoming more common place as even CL's go that way.

David

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Even 4amp is possible to live with if one exercises some care. We have a favourite  site which  is off grid and supplies EHU from Solar. We use a Remoska , a 900w hotplate and low wattage kettle and do all our cooking .

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Posted on 29/04/2023 23:25 by DavidKlyne

Depends where you are abroad? In Germany the majority of sites I have used have 16 amp availability but also many sites also have metering. Lowering the ampage available might be fine in the summer months but would not, I reckon, suit the majority at other times of year. I am also not convinced the Club would be wanting its site managers swapping electrical components in a site bollard due to H&S concerns? It could be done by having sophisticated switching systems in reception but that would take up more staff time and probably be as expensive as fitting a metering system. Unless you are going to keep the current free for all you have to go to metering which is becoming more common place as even CL's go that way.

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Navigateur replied on 30/04/2023 11:00

Posted on 30/04/2023 11:00

With plug-in trips being so easy to change surely there will be people who would carry a high capacity trip to use to replace the low capacity that they have been issued?

phoenix54 replied on 30/04/2023 11:01

Posted on 22/04/2023 13:26 by Takethedogalong

Not so much coin meters Rocky, but many households have pre payment meters installed, where they top up a card that goes into the meter. So they have to make sure there’s credit on the card. Hugely controversial, they tend to be in rental accommodation, and the tariff is usually higher than a non pre payment option. It’s a different world for the folks that live a lot closer to the poverty threshold than anyone likely to be a Club Member. This is shall I cook a meal, or shall I keep warm territory☹️ The theory is that if you prepay your usage, you won’t run up a big debt as might happen if folks don’t pay a monthly bill. So it’s pay up, or the lights go out and the gas goes off.

Posted on 30/04/2023 11:01

"Not likely to be club members"

This to me is judgemental and " I don't know what I'm talking about territory".

I've had a prepayment meter for years, also living  in rented accommodation and have been a club member for 12 years. Plenty who own their own homes have them too and aren't living in poverty. Sometimes it's a choice to have one installed sometimes it isn't because of debt. I bet there's plenty of members who have prepayment meters you could be pitched next to one now. Club members can come from all walks of life from people on high salaries with an expensive motorhome to the working man on minimum wage who does caravaning for a cheap holiday. 

Hja replied on 30/04/2023 11:10

Posted on 29/04/2023 20:28 by TobyLeeds

Metering seems an expensive way of monitoring and charging for the electricity used. When abroad we find 6 amp adequate (4 is not sufficient)  Why not charge a standard price for 6 amp. Anyone wanting more could pay for a new trip switch for either 10 amp or 13 amp. Switches could easily be changed by the warden, as happens on many continental sites , 

Posted on 30/04/2023 11:10

I don’t disagree with this, although I would rather see off grid pitches. However given many do not experience anything but 16 amp plug in I think a lot of people would be tripping the fuse on a regular basis. Presumably this would have to be re set by the warden. And in the middle of the night??

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