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Wherenext replied on 20/03/2023 18:56

Posted on 20/03/2023 18:56

Just read a review of Wirral CP site that mentions that the wardens are no longer able to sell basic goods from the reception. They told the reviewer that it was a H.O. management decision.

Is this a regular occurrence elsewhere as I've not seen it mentioned before and not being a regular attendee on club sites would not have come across it?

Should imagine it would affect some members more than others. 

 

 

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 05/04/2023 13:10

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Posted on 05/04/2023 13:10

No convenience at all, I was hoping to offer a different angle to B2, it was so minimal I could afford to pass over it. If you have an alternative I’d love to hear it. As I’ve said many times-intelligent discourse is the way forward👍🏻😊

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Graydjames replied on 05/04/2023 14:45

Posted on 04/04/2023 20:25 by DavidKlyne

Bakers2

We are increasingly becoming a cashless society, I even paid for my haircut this morning by card, something pre COVID would have never happened! The vast majority of C&CC site arrivals have already paid their site fees so perhaps the reasoning behind the cashless bit is to save site staff, not only the risk of having cash on site but also the need to bank it at regular intervals, especially now there are so few banks around? 

David

Posted on 05/04/2023 14:45

I suppose a small barber might not previously have taken cards, but surely most hairdressers did well before COVID. A hairdressing client of mine took about 30% of their takings in cash during the calendar year 2019. During 2022 it was only 11%. I just checked this from the actual figures. I would have thought that fairly typical for multi-chair hairdressers. Of course this is a big change so COVID certainly had its effect.

I can't remember where it was, but I bought something in a Club shop last year and they had their own card machine - not the clubs', but their own. One of those little white SumUp machines. We had a brief discussion about it and they thought it invaluable and I am sure I recall the lady saying that a number of site warden had started to use them.   

The competition among providers of card services is much greater now than it once was and charges have fallen. A typical rate of 3% at one time is now more typically half that. SumUp's charges are 1.69% plus they have a great app for monitoring card sales which itself saves time for accounting purposes. (I don't have an axe to grind for SumUp in case anyone wondered - no connection whatsoever).  

Cash is not totally cost free; banks make charges for paying in cash and cheques and businesses with a lot of cash have to pay someone to count it, reconcile it and bank it. On the whole a cashless business probably saves money with less admin, reduced bank charges and higher sales making up for the card charges - although I admit that probably would not apply to a small, low turnover, club shop.    

  

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 05/04/2023 14:50

Posted on 05/04/2023 14:39 by

Think about it.  The card processing giants such as WorldPay, want us to become a cashless society because they make millions every minute from card users.  Those same users seem to swallow their sales pitch of how wonderful it is, how convenient and easy it is and will do so until it gets to the point that cash disappear and the charges from these "wonderful" companies rise and start to empty their pockets even faster.   

Posted on 05/04/2023 14:50

That’s a good narrative👍🏻, the thing is cashless fits with my personal ideal. I will be more than happy to waive the wallet & the flappy notes without even starting on the last century shrapnel to lug around. Nope, my phone with an App(sans wallet, the male purse) is a joy, I won’t mourn the old ways. Everyone with power makes money from us I have chosen who & how they make money from me-minimally & at my convenience👍🏻😊

Graydjames replied on 05/04/2023 14:59

Posted on 05/04/2023 14:39 by

Think about it.  The card processing giants such as WorldPay, want us to become a cashless society because they make millions every minute from card users.  Those same users seem to swallow their sales pitch of how wonderful it is, how convenient and easy it is and will do so until it gets to the point that cash disappear and the charges from these "wonderful" companies rise and start to empty their pockets even faster.   

Posted on 05/04/2023 14:59

They swallow the sales pitch because it is one of the rare sales pitches that happens to be true - for both buyer and seller. 

I think it more likely that charges will fall rather than rise as card use increases yet further. Also, it is a heavily regulated industry.

 Moreover, as I said above, it is quite wrong to assume that cash is cost free to the seller. 

JollyKernow replied on 05/04/2023 15:02

Posted on 05/04/2023 09:22 by mickysf

Why the defection from one to the other, JK? Does it happen the other way? Is it to do with better T&Cs and working conditions?

Posted on 05/04/2023 15:02

Nothing official micky but I nor anyone I know in this club have ever heard of a CAMC employee going to work for the other club. Speaking to the incomers it does seem as though this club's T's & C's, staff benefits and conditions win the day by a wide margin. I know that's just talk and I haven't set foot on one of the other clubs sites in 14 years since I was sworn at by the site manager 3 times in an hour!! but I know I'm glad they didn't like my cv all those years ago when we applied to both clubsundecided

 

I'm not biased because I'm an employee but from our interview then induction and subsequent training events I've always felt respected and "looked after", even more so since covid. 

JK

mickysf replied on 05/04/2023 17:48

Posted on 05/04/2023 15:02 by JollyKernow

Nothing official micky but I nor anyone I know in this club have ever heard of a CAMC employee going to work for the other club. Speaking to the incomers it does seem as though this club's T's & C's, staff benefits and conditions win the day by a wide margin. I know that's just talk and I haven't set foot on one of the other clubs sites in 14 years since I was sworn at by the site manager 3 times in an hour!! but I know I'm glad they didn't like my cv all those years ago when we applied to both clubsundecided

 

I'm not biased because I'm an employee but from our interview then induction and subsequent training events I've always felt respected and "looked after", even more so since covid. 

JK

Posted on 05/04/2023 17:48

Thanks JK. Reminds me of my ‘apprentice’ years when a rival company set up. They undercut but had a heavy and very regular turnover of staff, it became very apparent that they cut several corners, both of employment law and H&S. Not suggesting anything other here than those old adages, “you get what you pay for” and , “the grass is often greener on the other side”. In both cases costs to the purchaser can be more when due diligence is applied.

nelliethehooker replied on 05/04/2023 20:47

Posted on 05/04/2023 14:50 by Rocky 2 buckets

That’s a good narrative👍🏻, the thing is cashless fits with my personal ideal. I will be more than happy to waive the wallet & the flappy notes without even starting on the last century shrapnel to lug around. Nope, my phone with an App(sans wallet, the male purse) is a joy, I won’t mourn the old ways. Everyone with power makes money from us I have chosen who & how they make money from me-minimally & at my convenience👍🏻😊

Posted on 05/04/2023 20:47

As a matter of interest what do you do a when staying on a CL, for instance, and the owners request that you pay in cash?

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 06/04/2023 07:42

Posted on 05/04/2023 20:47 by nelliethehooker

As a matter of interest what do you do a when staying on a CL, for instance, and the owners request that you pay in cash?

Posted on 06/04/2023 07:42

I would have it sorted at the phone call stage as in-bank transfer or online pay, failing that I shop elsewhere. CL owners are part of the modern world NTF they are primarily business minded which can be attested by them moving with the times & increasing fees rather than allowing greedy people to ruin them, good question👍🏻

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