Pre-arrival texts

Tinwheeler replied on 29/07/2022 13:46

Posted on 29/07/2022 13:46

I’ve heard of a few people who have received texts just before their booking start dates reminding them of the 1300 arrival time. I’m told the wording makes it clear they will be turned away if they arrive early. This is in addition to the usual booking reminder emails.

I’m wondering if CAMC is taking steps to curb early arrivals. Has anyone here received a text?

peedee replied on 01/08/2022 13:09

Posted on 01/08/2022 13:09

That’s possibly because they aren’t actively enforcing 1pm, whereas the Club now are.

The C&CC did have financial penalties when they first introduced the 1pm arrival times but I think it caused too much agro. That does not mean other methods cannot be tried.

peedee

Tinwheeler replied on 01/08/2022 13:16

Posted on 01/08/2022 13:09 by peedee

That’s possibly because they aren’t actively enforcing 1pm, whereas the Club now are.

The C&CC did have financial penalties when they first introduced the 1pm arrival times but I think it caused too much agro. That does not mean other methods cannot be tried.

peedee

Posted on 01/08/2022 13:16

I think, PD, you’re referring to C&CC's exercise of 15-20 years ago when they tried charging £5 for arriving before 1200. They dropped it after a fairly short trial. It was unenforceable as well as causing aggro.

Cornersteady replied on 01/08/2022 13:26

Posted on 01/08/2022 12:48 by frabro

While there are as I understand it good reasons for the 1300 rule as was for the previous 1200 timing I do think that wardens should exercise a degree of flexibility. I suspect like most I try and judge my arrival for 1300 unless we’re travelling a significant distance . This has on occasions resulted in my arrival being perhaps 5 -10 minutes early . Having watched the warden at  Bunree stalking round the arrival area at 1255 when the entire arrival area was full to the degree on could not have driven out ( we were walking) looking at his watch I despaired at the lack of common sense and bad feeling he was stoking up. I have no time for those who turn up 30 minutes and more but a few minutes?  It is attributed to Nelson , that “ rules are for the guidance of wise men or the blind obedience of fools” He did and still does have a point 

Posted on 01/08/2022 13:26

As I've posted before, once there is a degree of flexibility or 5 to 10 minutes leeway, then what is to stop people taking advantage and then pushing that to 11 minutes then 12, then...

To me there is no difference between 30 minutes and a few, it is simply early and something that people have voluntarily agreed to not do?

If one is going to arrive 10 minutes early and it's pretty obvious when you're going to do that either by sat nav or simple maths (take an rough idea that you're travelling a mile a minute on a good fast road) then slow down or pull over somewhere.

You talk about bad feeling but they arrive early and break the rules and then get upset about the wardens enforcing the rules? So if there is any bad feelings then it it's their fault completely. 

The quote about guidance doesn't hold true and didn't even then, the problem is no one is really wise enough to know if they are a fool or wise. One of the most famous chaps who said it met with a nasty accident and it was used a lot in training as an example as to always follow the rules.

peedee replied on 01/08/2022 13:34

Posted on 01/08/2022 13:16 by Tinwheeler

I think, PD, you’re referring to C&CC's exercise of 15-20 years ago when they tried charging £5 for arriving before 1200. They dropped it after a fairly short trial. It was unenforceable as well as causing aggro.

Posted on 01/08/2022 13:34

Was it that long ago, no wonder I thought it was when the 1pm rule came in.

peedee

JVB66 replied on 01/08/2022 13:39

Posted on 01/08/2022 13:26 by Cornersteady

As I've posted before, once there is a degree of flexibility or 5 to 10 minutes leeway, then what is to stop people taking advantage and then pushing that to 11 minutes then 12, then...

To me there is no difference between 30 minutes and a few, it is simply early and something that people have voluntarily agreed to not do?

If one is going to arrive 10 minutes early and it's pretty obvious when you're going to do that either by sat nav or simple maths (take an rough idea that you're travelling a mile a minute on a good fast road) then slow down or pull over somewhere.

You talk about bad feeling but they arrive early and break the rules and then get upset about the wardens enforcing the rules? So if there is any bad feelings then it it's their fault completely. 

The quote about guidance doesn't hold true and didn't even then, the problem is no one is really wise enough to know if they are a fool or wise. One of the most famous chaps who said it met with a nasty accident and it was used a lot in training as an example as to always follow the rules.

Posted on 01/08/2022 13:39

I have never understood why the earliest arrival time  on any site club or commercial is it seems the "target?" for some  when a a few minutes later or more would not have the stress that it seems to entail for both the arrival and the site staff?

 

JollyKernow replied on 01/08/2022 13:41

Posted on 01/08/2022 11:08 by mickysf

I’m now convinced that some folk will deliberately do all they possibly can to ‘avoid’ this well communicated information. They do this in order to carry on doing their own thing and then plead ignorance. They then blame others for them not knowing and place site staff in difficult and potentially confrontational situations.

Posted on 01/08/2022 13:41

I do honestly think Micky that you've hit the nail on the head there.

JK

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 01/08/2022 13:47

Posted on 01/08/2022 13:26 by Cornersteady

As I've posted before, once there is a degree of flexibility or 5 to 10 minutes leeway, then what is to stop people taking advantage and then pushing that to 11 minutes then 12, then...

To me there is no difference between 30 minutes and a few, it is simply early and something that people have voluntarily agreed to not do?

If one is going to arrive 10 minutes early and it's pretty obvious when you're going to do that either by sat nav or simple maths (take an rough idea that you're travelling a mile a minute on a good fast road) then slow down or pull over somewhere.

You talk about bad feeling but they arrive early and break the rules and then get upset about the wardens enforcing the rules? So if there is any bad feelings then it it's their fault completely. 

The quote about guidance doesn't hold true and didn't even then, the problem is no one is really wise enough to know if they are a fool or wise. One of the most famous chaps who said it met with a nasty accident and it was used a lot in training as an example as to always follow the rules.

Posted on 01/08/2022 13:47

Mmmm, everytime I stick to 60mph on Country roads that have a 60mph limit I’m a fool-BTW I’m very wise indeed so that saying is dumb🤫😗😗

Takethedogalong replied on 01/08/2022 13:59

Posted on 01/08/2022 13:59

Can anyone please enlighten me why there is such desperation to be at a Site bang on arrival time? I remain totally baffled by this🤷‍♀️ 

JVB66 replied on 01/08/2022 14:07

Posted on 01/08/2022 14:07

As I posted earlier what is it that makes some people view the earliest arrival time as a targetundecided

EmilysDad replied on 01/08/2022 14:11

Posted on 01/08/2022 13:59 by Takethedogalong

Can anyone please enlighten me why there is such desperation to be at a Site bang on arrival time? I remain totally baffled by this🤷‍♀️ 

Posted on 01/08/2022 14:11

getting their money's worth? And getting set up so they can go out & do their stuff .... ??

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