Motorhome facilities and rules

jb99 replied on 16/09/2021 12:05

Posted on 16/09/2021 12:05

We've just returned from a tour of mid and south Wales in our motorhome.  We stayed at a number different locations: pubs, public car parks, private camp sites and one night at the C&MC site in St Davids.  We have paid our membership fees for many years, but in practice we haven't stayed on a Club site very often, and not since the name change and rebranding.  So we expected great improvements for motorhomes. 

We arrived rather early, but were warmly welcomed by the lady on reception who unexpectedly checked us in before the official time. 

I was rather confused by the parking rules, but looked at the way adjacent vehicles were arranged and tried to imitate them.  Since our motorhome is less than 2.5m wide, versus a car/caravan/awning measuring maybe 7m, it was easy to maintain the 6m separation from our neighbours.  However, apparently I had picked the wrong corner to go next to the white post.  This was explained to me that evening, but since we were leaving the next morning the very friendly warden said not to bother moving.  Fine, I'll be more careful if we visit again.

The next morning, there was a queue of motorhomes at the only grey waste point, so we decided that, as we only had a small amount of waste we would empty the toilet cassette at the service point then just fill up with fresh water and leave.  So, I pulled up next to the adjacent service point and attached my hose connector to the threaded tap.  Shortly after, a  different warden who was maintaining the grass, came along and said that motorhomes weren't allowed to use the service points and indeed there was a notice that said this that I hadn't seen.  He said that this was because filling a motorhome takes a lot of time so other people would have to wait.  I asked why I had to wait rather than other members and although a 100 litre motorhome tank will obviously take longer than a 50 litre rolling caravan tank, there were three other service points on the site.  No! Jobsworth was adamant and claimed that it was a health and safety risk (which is hard to understand). 

According to various comments on Facebook, these is just a couple of many petty rule enforcement incidents that are alienating motorhome owners.  I really think that if the Club wants to encourage this massively increasing sector of the market, they need to learn the differences between motorhomes and towed caravans.

So, the rebranding was clearly just a marketing exercise and we will have to seriously consider whether to renew our membership next year.

JVB66 replied on 17/09/2021 15:01

Posted on 17/09/2021 14:41 by cyberyacht

It's dumping the grey that seems to take longer. My previous Moho had a pathetically sized grey waste tap which I changed for something a little larger which about halved the time. There's room for a Moho and a wastemaster if the MHSP is properly designed.

Posted on 17/09/2021 15:01

I take it by your post you have a "properly designed"? MCSP on the drawing boardwink

jb99 replied on 17/09/2021 15:07

Posted on 16/09/2021 14:21 by jb99

I can't remember ever being told that I couldn't use a water tap anywhere.  And that's in about 60 years camping, in countries all over Europe, Morocco, USA, New Zealand, Australia and even Cuba.  Of course one shouldn't block up roads and indeed in this case, I was parked on the grass near to the tap (it's an all grass site, so no problems parking there).  The private site we stayed on the night before had taps scattered about with no restriction so you didn't need to spend as much time at the motorhome service point;  "park where you like, but 6m separation", and it was a few pence cheaper!

As I said before, this Club seems to like inventing rules and I'm not sure that I can be bothered when there are alternatives.

Posted on 17/09/2021 15:07

Last post from me on this subject.  I'm beginning to remember why I leave Facebook to my wife, but its good to see that there is an active forum to discuss these things and I'm recovering from my initial outrage.

BTW. My mention of 60 years was an exaggeration.  My first memory of camping was 59 years ago in a tent in Uganda with no tap to wue for and hole in the ground that I was told had snakes in it.  Led to some constipation!

SallyD replied on 17/09/2021 15:47

Posted on 16/09/2021 12:05 by jb99

We've just returned from a tour of mid and south Wales in our motorhome.  We stayed at a number different locations: pubs, public car parks, private camp sites and one night at the C&MC site in St Davids.  We have paid our membership fees for many years, but in practice we haven't stayed on a Club site very often, and not since the name change and rebranding.  So we expected great improvements for motorhomes. 

We arrived rather early, but were warmly welcomed by the lady on reception who unexpectedly checked us in before the official time. 

I was rather confused by the parking rules, but looked at the way adjacent vehicles were arranged and tried to imitate them.  Since our motorhome is less than 2.5m wide, versus a car/caravan/awning measuring maybe 7m, it was easy to maintain the 6m separation from our neighbours.  However, apparently I had picked the wrong corner to go next to the white post.  This was explained to me that evening, but since we were leaving the next morning the very friendly warden said not to bother moving.  Fine, I'll be more careful if we visit again.

The next morning, there was a queue of motorhomes at the only grey waste point, so we decided that, as we only had a small amount of waste we would empty the toilet cassette at the service point then just fill up with fresh water and leave.  So, I pulled up next to the adjacent service point and attached my hose connector to the threaded tap.  Shortly after, a  different warden who was maintaining the grass, came along and said that motorhomes weren't allowed to use the service points and indeed there was a notice that said this that I hadn't seen.  He said that this was because filling a motorhome takes a lot of time so other people would have to wait.  I asked why I had to wait rather than other members and although a 100 litre motorhome tank will obviously take longer than a 50 litre rolling caravan tank, there were three other service points on the site.  No! Jobsworth was adamant and claimed that it was a health and safety risk (which is hard to understand). 

According to various comments on Facebook, these is just a couple of many petty rule enforcement incidents that are alienating motorhome owners.  I really think that if the Club wants to encourage this massively increasing sector of the market, they need to learn the differences between motorhomes and towed caravans.

So, the rebranding was clearly just a marketing exercise and we will have to seriously consider whether to renew our membership next year.

Posted on 17/09/2021 15:47

Oh for heavens sake get a life! Join a Club obey the rules End of story!

Hja replied on 17/09/2021 16:49

Posted on 17/09/2021 16:49

Sorry, I really dont see why, if I am not blocking a road way, I cant fill my motorhome from a service point.  If I had only just started to fill up, I would stop to allow someone to fill their aquaroll.  But the position of some motorhome points is in themselves an obstruction.

I think it is the one at Battle where in order to fill and dump grey at the same time we were sticking out slightly into the narrow road, and that is with a 6.4m van.  Goodness know what happens with longer ones.

replied on 17/09/2021 18:24

Posted on 17/09/2021 15:47 by SallyD

Oh for heavens sake get a life! Join a Club obey the rules End of story!

Posted on 17/09/2021 18:24

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cyberyacht replied on 18/09/2021 09:26

Posted on 17/09/2021 15:01 by JVB66

I take it by your post you have a "properly designed"? MCSP on the drawing boardwink

Posted on 18/09/2021 09:26

I don't need to. There are 'some' sites with a full width open grid so they do know how to do it. Easy for a Moho and a wastemaster at the same time.

viatorem replied on 18/09/2021 11:33

Posted on 18/09/2021 11:33

Maybe due to the rapid growth of motorhome use we have a club originally designed around caravans somewhat wrong footed and floundering to be all things to all people with diversification into holiday pods at certain sites etc. Would focusing on getting things right for the core of the membership be a better approach than experimenting at some cost with developing and marketing these additional public facilities?

JVB66 replied on 18/09/2021 11:44

Posted on 18/09/2021 09:26 by cyberyacht

I don't need to. There are 'some' sites with a full width open grid so they do know how to do it. Easy for a Moho and a wastemaster at the same time.

Posted on 18/09/2021 11:44

Are they? have you tried emptying a wastemaster when a MC is emptying ? 

JVB66 replied on 18/09/2021 12:08

Posted on 18/09/2021 12:08

Not trying to defend  how this club is changing (the pods etc are a separate business off shoot "experiance  freedom" ,self financing? the future maybe?) Motor caravans owners have been part of this clubs accepted membership from the about  late 1960 early 1970s? and service points have been evolving since then,and as many sites be it owned or leased,have been open many years some before even EHUs ,  when LVs and tow cars were much smaller also,IMHO think it will be many years yet before all sites (if still viable) for touring as we now know it?,will be able to cater for the minority who are not satisfied nowsurprised

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 18/09/2021 13:01

Posted on 18/09/2021 11:33 by viatorem

Maybe due to the rapid growth of motorhome use we have a club originally designed around caravans somewhat wrong footed and floundering to be all things to all people with diversification into holiday pods at certain sites etc. Would focusing on getting things right for the core of the membership be a better approach than experimenting at some cost with developing and marketing these additional public facilities?

Posted on 18/09/2021 13:01

No, they’re doing good👍🏻. Progress is needed on all fronts at once evolving is constant a forward thinking & looking business never stand still. Dynamism is needed dust gathers on anything that doesn’t move.

 

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