Motorhome facilities and rules

jb99 replied on 16/09/2021 12:05

Posted on 16/09/2021 12:05

We've just returned from a tour of mid and south Wales in our motorhome.  We stayed at a number different locations: pubs, public car parks, private camp sites and one night at the C&MC site in St Davids.  We have paid our membership fees for many years, but in practice we haven't stayed on a Club site very often, and not since the name change and rebranding.  So we expected great improvements for motorhomes. 

We arrived rather early, but were warmly welcomed by the lady on reception who unexpectedly checked us in before the official time. 

I was rather confused by the parking rules, but looked at the way adjacent vehicles were arranged and tried to imitate them.  Since our motorhome is less than 2.5m wide, versus a car/caravan/awning measuring maybe 7m, it was easy to maintain the 6m separation from our neighbours.  However, apparently I had picked the wrong corner to go next to the white post.  This was explained to me that evening, but since we were leaving the next morning the very friendly warden said not to bother moving.  Fine, I'll be more careful if we visit again.

The next morning, there was a queue of motorhomes at the only grey waste point, so we decided that, as we only had a small amount of waste we would empty the toilet cassette at the service point then just fill up with fresh water and leave.  So, I pulled up next to the adjacent service point and attached my hose connector to the threaded tap.  Shortly after, a  different warden who was maintaining the grass, came along and said that motorhomes weren't allowed to use the service points and indeed there was a notice that said this that I hadn't seen.  He said that this was because filling a motorhome takes a lot of time so other people would have to wait.  I asked why I had to wait rather than other members and although a 100 litre motorhome tank will obviously take longer than a 50 litre rolling caravan tank, there were three other service points on the site.  No! Jobsworth was adamant and claimed that it was a health and safety risk (which is hard to understand). 

According to various comments on Facebook, these is just a couple of many petty rule enforcement incidents that are alienating motorhome owners.  I really think that if the Club wants to encourage this massively increasing sector of the market, they need to learn the differences between motorhomes and towed caravans.

So, the rebranding was clearly just a marketing exercise and we will have to seriously consider whether to renew our membership next year.

peedee replied on 16/09/2021 13:37

Posted on 16/09/2021 13:37

The next morning, there was a queue of motorhomes at the only grey waste point, so we decided that, as we only had a small amount of waste we would empty the toilet cassette at the service point then just fill up with fresh water and leave. So, I pulled up next to the adjacent service point and attached my hose connector to the threaded tap. Shortly after, a different warden who was maintaining the grass, came along and said that motorhomes weren't allowed to use the service points

I view this an increasing problem with the increase in motorhomes and campervans. I have also had a similar experience with the claim that my bright blue hose was a trip hazzard, as if EGH and coax TV leads are not! That said I have also had a warden indicate I could fill up from any service point but I think that was because of the very poor MHSP on site. Someone at least had some common sense.

peedee

jb99 replied on 16/09/2021 13:43

Posted on 16/09/2021 13:38 by jb99

Thanks for the helpful and informative response (or micro rant).

I was simply pointing out, with evidence, that the Club needs to move with the times.

Posted on 16/09/2021 13:43

That was in response to JVB66, not peedee. 

New to this posting.  I'll learn about that too.

 

brue replied on 16/09/2021 13:59

Posted on 16/09/2021 13:59

Out of interest  jb99, what's your experience in other places when you fill up with water eg are you expected to use a designated point if available?

My experience is that on many sites, not just CAMC, parking up by an ordinary water point can block the road etc. and an overall rule probably prevents further problems.

We've been on sites where we haven't been able to fill with water due to a motorhome queue with no other access or waiting space. So our solution is to top up manually from a container.

I think it's down to site designs in general, leaving little space left to improve them.

jb99 replied on 16/09/2021 14:21

Posted on 16/09/2021 13:59 by brue

Out of interest  jb99, what's your experience in other places when you fill up with water eg are you expected to use a designated point if available?

My experience is that on many sites, not just CAMC, parking up by an ordinary water point can block the road etc. and an overall rule probably prevents further problems.

We've been on sites where we haven't been able to fill with water due to a motorhome queue with no other access or waiting space. So our solution is to top up manually from a container.

I think it's down to site designs in general, leaving little space left to improve them.

Posted on 16/09/2021 14:21

I can't remember ever being told that I couldn't use a water tap anywhere.  And that's in about 60 years camping, in countries all over Europe, Morocco, USA, New Zealand, Australia and even Cuba.  Of course one shouldn't block up roads and indeed in this case, I was parked on the grass near to the tap (it's an all grass site, so no problems parking there).  The private site we stayed on the night before had taps scattered about with no restriction so you didn't need to spend as much time at the motorhome service point;  "park where you like, but 6m separation", and it was a few pence cheaper!

As I said before, this Club seems to like inventing rules and I'm not sure that I can be bothered when there are alternatives.

eurortraveller replied on 16/09/2021 14:26

Posted on 16/09/2021 14:26

Hi jb99,  Welcome aboard this forum. Your post didn’t strike me as a rant - just a description of how a newcomer to a club site found it to be - many rules and many restrictions. But  I am afraid you will find some of the old hands on here very defensive of club sites, which they see as perfect in every respect. Do please keep contradicting them. I look forward to hearing from you again. 

brue replied on 16/09/2021 14:34

Posted on 16/09/2021 14:34

Jb99 I haven't done 60 years of camping round the world so can't claim any great knowledge of rules and regs elsewhere.wink

Anyway thanks for the response, our last site was in a field with one water tap and no ehu. We just go along with what we find. 

I'm not defending club sites Euror. I just asked a question.

SteveL replied on 16/09/2021 14:43

Posted on 16/09/2021 14:43

We have had a MH since 2019 and used a lot of club sites and experienced no significant problems. If the water point isn’t free when we arrive I park up and fill later on. Or perhaps wait if room, while OH wanders off to select a pitch. We always travel with 20 litres, so it’s not urgent. As to dumping, perhaps it’s the time we leave, but there is rarely a wait of more than 1 van for dumping and the most we have come across is 2. Personally I don’t think the rules are overly oppressive and not filling / dumping at a standard filling point in the majority of cases makes sense, as you would be blocking the road and making it awkward  for others arriving or leaving. The option is there to fill or dump using containers as we did with our caravan. My minor gripe is the positioning of some of the drive over wastes and the fact that in some cases it is still necessary to lift a heavy steel cover.

jb99 replied on 16/09/2021 16:03

Posted on 16/09/2021 14:34 by brue

Jb99 I haven't done 60 years of camping round the world so can't claim any great knowledge of rules and regs elsewhere.wink

Anyway thanks for the response, our last site was in a field with one water tap and no ehu. We just go along with what we find. 

I'm not defending club sites Euror. I just asked a question.

Posted on 16/09/2021 16:03

That's the big difference between Motorhomes and towed vans.  The former are generally more self contained and can park in many more places, especially in mainland Europe where they are welcomed, quite often with free facilities because we use their restaurants and shops (because we can, because they are nearby, not miles away down a lane).  We have a very adequate hot water system and our own toilet, so don't really need camp site facilities.  The only reason we go to sites is because often that is all there is in the UK.  I should have noted that the cheaper private site charged for showers; seems like a good solution for those that like a spacious ablution.

I noticed that peedee has the CAMpRA logo, that is the way things are going.

PS: I missed out Iceland.  Not cheap to hire, but a tremendous experience.

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