Loss of Site Shops on remote rural sites

rayjsj replied on 18/06/2024 14:40

Posted on 18/06/2024 14:40

Both last year and this ,several  sites that boasted well used site shops have closed them,  they now only sell Toilet fluid !   Even that essential  6kg Calor Gas is no longer sold !   (That is VERY inconvenient and 'unfriendly').  If the Sites were in the outskirts of large towns or even Villages that would be acceptable and reasonable, giving trade to local suppliers, but Borrowdale in Cumbria and New England Bay in Dumfies and Galloway ,both many miles from shops selling milk ,newspapers or even Ice Creams , let alone exchanging 6kg  Calor Gas cylinders. Makes life very difficult for the Member on Holiday,  Both Sites previously had shops , Borrowdale especially sold lovely fresh Cakes from Brysons in Keswick. And Red Squirrel food to feed the 'locals'.  

  If the Site Managers find supplying Gas and other essentials to Members  too much  trouble ? Perhaps they might consider whether they are in the job that suits them, and their Customers  Best?

It's certainly made me Wonder if the Club is still 'right' for me ?  After 20 years being happy with it ? 

 

rayjsj replied on 19/06/2024 13:45

Posted on 18/06/2024 21:28 by Cornersteady

From what I recall from a then serving warden the club's policy is that it is totally up to the wardens to decide if they want to run a shop which has to be set up (items to be sold and fridges, seprate tills...) using their own money and stocked/restocked in their own time .

Also I seem to recall that gas and toilets fluids are always sold but these are provided by the club and not by wardens.

If a shop is there I'll use it but we don't expect or plan for one to be provided.

Posted on 19/06/2024 13:45

You can get Green toilet fluid and odd  things like steel tent pegs,  but not always gas  ? For some obscure reason ?   It's very  'hit and miss'  depending on the site Warden.  From now on ,one of the questions I will ask, when I ring to book a site which is in a rural area  will be :  you had a shop last year,  Do you still have a shop ? Do you sell milk  or 6kg Propane ?   If not, I will look elsewhere.    I don't like having to pack up to go offside for shopping  too often, my problem as I chose a motorhome,   but it never used to be a problem, until the past couple of years. 

Wardens seem to be grumpier too ?  Or is that just my imagination ? 🤔    lol 😆 

 

Cornersteady replied on 19/06/2024 14:34

Posted on 19/06/2024 13:45 by rayjsj

You can get Green toilet fluid and odd  things like steel tent pegs,  but not always gas  ? For some obscure reason ?   It's very  'hit and miss'  depending on the site Warden.  From now on ,one of the questions I will ask, when I ring to book a site which is in a rural area  will be :  you had a shop last year,  Do you still have a shop ? Do you sell milk  or 6kg Propane ?   If not, I will look elsewhere.    I don't like having to pack up to go offside for shopping  too often, my problem as I chose a motorhome,   but it never used to be a problem, until the past couple of years. 

Wardens seem to be grumpier too ?  Or is that just my imagination ? 🤔    lol 😆 

 

Posted on 19/06/2024 14:34

Gas should be there but there are supply problems as been discussed many times so not all to do with wardens?

Not noticed any difference with wardens.

 

Takethedogalong replied on 19/06/2024 20:35

Posted on 19/06/2024 20:35

For information, Burrs has a small shop in the reception, Clumber has something a bit bigger. Both run by site staff. Burrs did not have any gas, not sure about Clumber.

We get organised when planning a tour. We carry two mid size gas canisters, and one is replaced as we put the spare on, as soon as we find an outlet. We always have a couple of cartons of long life milk, if on a long trip, we carry some of those bake at home bread sticks for emergency, they have a long storage life. Eggs are a good standby, particularly if very fresh from farms, bit of tinned stuff. 

Running a shop will take more effort than maybe some appreciate. It has to be stocked, inventoried, cash reconciled, and that’s extra duties outside of work rota. I wouldn’t expect a small site with just a couple and reliefs to give up their time off from CAMC duties, not unless the profit margins were attractive enough. If your MH stays on site for long periods, without going out at all, then good planning is needed, or arrange a small supermarket delivery outside the Site gates. 

eurortraveller replied on 20/06/2024 12:53

Posted on 20/06/2024 12:53

I have met British motor homers all over Western Europe. . Campsites don’t have shops and Aires don’t have shops.Those motorhomers drive everywhere. They buy food where everyone else buys food. They are self reliant and independent.

What’s with Club members who want to park their motorhome on a Club site and leave it there - and then moan on here because the warden isn’t running a shop for them. Do they really need things done for them?

rayjsj replied on 20/06/2024 16:38

Posted on 18/06/2024 15:59 by eurortraveller

Come and live here Ray. I have just driven 15 miles from home and back to the butcher in town and to pick up groceries from stores which don’t deliver.

Do motorhomers need special treatment? Or can they do as local residents do?

Go and get your supplies as we do. Or have you bought an inconvenient vehicle?

Posted on 20/06/2024 16:38

It's a bit different being on holiday and living in a place,  I live in a rural area myself,  Fishguard, Wales.  At home I have a small car and a  Bus pass,  in the Lakes and in Scotland I have neither just my Motorhome . Which we can take into supermarket car parks but not always if its  busy.  So an 'inconvenient vehicle'  No, it suits us fine,  its just a nuisance when  'Health and Safety' gets the blame for a drop in Service Quality.  A sign of the times ? Maybe, but no less annoying.   Ray

SteveL replied on 20/06/2024 17:21

Posted on 20/06/2024 17:21

A site shop is only ever going to stock a few essentials, therefore you are still going to have to visit the supermarket or other shops. We only tend to stop a maximum of four days and shop on route and avoid busy times. For instance we knew the carpark at the Kyle of Lochalsh Coop was small, so got away early from Morvich. Mostly it’s not an issue. If we were stopping longer we would take the MH of site when we dumped water, then fill up again on return. It just takes a bit of planning.

Tinwheeler replied on 20/06/2024 17:42

Posted on 20/06/2024 16:38 by rayjsj

It's a bit different being on holiday and living in a place,  I live in a rural area myself,  Fishguard, Wales.  At home I have a small car and a  Bus pass,  in the Lakes and in Scotland I have neither just my Motorhome . Which we can take into supermarket car parks but not always if its  busy.  So an 'inconvenient vehicle'  No, it suits us fine,  its just a nuisance when  'Health and Safety' gets the blame for a drop in Service Quality.  A sign of the times ? Maybe, but no less annoying.   Ray

Posted on 20/06/2024 17:42

I agree with Steve, Ray. All it takes is a little bit of thought and you can organise your days and your needs easily. If I recall correctly, you have a PVC and I know from personal experience that’s it’s no big deal to park that at a supermarket. Even a larger MH presents no problems if you avoid busy times.

Tbh, I think you’re making an issue out of something that’s really only a small part of staying on sites. Relax, you’re on holiday. 😎

Hja replied on 20/06/2024 20:14

Posted on 20/06/2024 17:42 by Tinwheeler

I agree with Steve, Ray. All it takes is a little bit of thought and you can organise your days and your needs easily. If I recall correctly, you have a PVC and I know from personal experience that’s it’s no big deal to park that at a supermarket. Even a larger MH presents no problems if you avoid busy times.

Tbh, I think you’re making an issue out of something that’s really only a small part of staying on sites. Relax, you’re on holiday. 😎

Posted on 20/06/2024 20:14

If you use small village shops you can often park on the road.

PITCHTOCLOSE replied on 21/06/2024 10:20

Posted on 21/06/2024 10:20

I think this mainly effects motor homers, and as we always carry s spare gas bottle in case we run out we do not have that problem.

Tinwheeler replied on 21/06/2024 10:47

Posted on 21/06/2024 10:20 by PITCHTOCLOSE

I think this mainly effects motor homers, and as we always carry s spare gas bottle in case we run out we do not have that problem.

Posted on 21/06/2024 10:47

Most MHs either carry 2 bottles or have a gas tank so I can’t see it affects them any more than caravanners. It’s all down to organising yourself really.

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