Electricity meters

peedee replied on 15/08/2017 15:30

Posted on 15/08/2017 15:30

This how some sites do it. Note you can get a refund for unused units or in the case of Club sites so equipped use the smart card on any site equipped with the same meters. The  pitch fee £12p.n. The cost of electric, 15p per Kw.

peedee

replied on 16/08/2017 07:55

Posted on 15/08/2017 22:15 by

Don't know about you DD but I have no interest in spending my time watching a smart meter. 

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DavidKlyne replied on 16/08/2017 09:48

Posted on 16/08/2017 09:48

If the Club were starting from scratch the installation of electric metering might be worth considering. As it would if there were a massive increase in electricity prices which made the current system untenable. However you do have to question whether it would be the right use of resources to implement a metered system into the system as it currently is. There would be a massive infrastructure costs involved in converting all the site bollards. A decision would have to be made on what sort of system whether that should be a card system or one controlled electronically via Reception. The card system would be the most convenient as it wouldn't involve extra time by site staff. If it were a card system there would have to be card dispensers available 24/7 just in case someone had used their allocation and needed a new card. I suppose in these times of technological advances you could pay by credit card at the site bollard. But the long and short of all this is that it would cost so much to put in place that members might even see site fees rise beyond what they are now to pay for the conversion plus of course having to pay for the electricity on top of that. I can't see that being acceptable to many people?

Like others I have used metered connection is Germany and to be truthful they are a right pain. They are always controlled by the office so you have to hang around on departure day until someone is available to get your cable out of a locked cabinet. They then have to calculate your final bill. Whilst on paper the idea of electric metering might appeal I would suggest the reality to the majority of members would be added cost and inconvenience. There are more more important things for the Club to be spending money on.  

David

Pippah45 replied on 16/08/2017 09:57

Posted on 16/08/2017 09:57

I thought I had posted something along those lines earlier today David but it wasn't nearly as comprehensive as yours!  I definitely agree.  

Cornersteady replied on 16/08/2017 09:58

Posted on 16/08/2017 09:48 by DavidKlyne

If the Club were starting from scratch the installation of electric metering might be worth considering. As it would if there were a massive increase in electricity prices which made the current system untenable. However you do have to question whether it would be the right use of resources to implement a metered system into the system as it currently is. There would be a massive infrastructure costs involved in converting all the site bollards. A decision would have to be made on what sort of system whether that should be a card system or one controlled electronically via Reception. The card system would be the most convenient as it wouldn't involve extra time by site staff. If it were a card system there would have to be card dispensers available 24/7 just in case someone had used their allocation and needed a new card. I suppose in these times of technological advances you could pay by credit card at the site bollard. But the long and short of all this is that it would cost so much to put in place that members might even see site fees rise beyond what they are now to pay for the conversion plus of course having to pay for the electricity on top of that. I can't see that being acceptable to many people?

Like others I have used metered connection is Germany and to be truthful they are a right pain. They are always controlled by the office so you have to hang around on departure day until someone is available to get your cable out of a locked cabinet. They then have to calculate your final bill. Whilst on paper the idea of electric metering might appeal I would suggest the reality to the majority of members would be added cost and inconvenience. There are more more important things for the Club to be spending money on.  

David

Posted on 16/08/2017 09:58

yes fully agree. A substantial cost to come from somewhere that will not be recouped in any way. I'd rather have more hardstandings.

replied on 16/08/2017 09:59

Posted on 16/08/2017 09:59

I have similar thoughts David regarding cost and convenience. I have no doubt that the few that do take motorhomes off site for much of the day in the depths of winter might feel different. I was disadvantaged when EHU became a part of pitch fees and I had no mains on our caravan. 

Regarding 'If the Club were starting from scratch'; I had similar thoughts about serviced pitches in as much as I suspect that on many sites all (or most) pitches would have water and drainage laid on. 

Cornersteady replied on 16/08/2017 10:01

Posted on 16/08/2017 10:01

Even when a new site is built no meters have been installed. The new sites in the past few years have all been hardstanding and with a good number of service pitches. The way forward I expect?

replied on 16/08/2017 10:05

Posted on 16/08/2017 10:05

I like the idea of service pitches - but not at nearly £4 a night extra. I have been on sites with them but with only a 5 night stay only fill once and empty once. 

SteveL replied on 16/08/2017 10:17

Posted on 16/08/2017 07:55 by

Agreed ET, but I do have a monitor the readings from which I check once a month to ensure they are about the same as the meter.  It saved me a fortune last autumn / winter when the meter went badly wrong. 

Posted on 16/08/2017 10:17

I assume smart meters differ then? Ours just transmits the same reading as what the meter in the cupboard displays. It does of couse convert it into a graph and show how much it is costing, as well as display a traffic light. Red being expensive. It does make the readings easier to monitor as I can do it from my chair. However, I think the only way I would know if the meter was faulty is if our bills went up unexpectedly. Or I suppose it was always on red.

replied on 16/08/2017 10:24

Posted on 16/08/2017 09:48 by DavidKlyne

If the Club were starting from scratch the installation of electric metering might be worth considering. As it would if there were a massive increase in electricity prices which made the current system untenable. However you do have to question whether it would be the right use of resources to implement a metered system into the system as it currently is. There would be a massive infrastructure costs involved in converting all the site bollards. A decision would have to be made on what sort of system whether that should be a card system or one controlled electronically via Reception. The card system would be the most convenient as it wouldn't involve extra time by site staff. If it were a card system there would have to be card dispensers available 24/7 just in case someone had used their allocation and needed a new card. I suppose in these times of technological advances you could pay by credit card at the site bollard. But the long and short of all this is that it would cost so much to put in place that members might even see site fees rise beyond what they are now to pay for the conversion plus of course having to pay for the electricity on top of that. I can't see that being acceptable to many people?

Like others I have used metered connection is Germany and to be truthful they are a right pain. They are always controlled by the office so you have to hang around on departure day until someone is available to get your cable out of a locked cabinet. They then have to calculate your final bill. Whilst on paper the idea of electric metering might appeal I would suggest the reality to the majority of members would be added cost and inconvenience. There are more more important things for the Club to be spending money on.  

David

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Takethedogalong replied on 16/08/2017 10:31

Posted on 16/08/2017 09:59 by

I have similar thoughts David regarding cost and convenience. I have no doubt that the few that do take motorhomes off site for much of the day in the depths of winter might feel different. I was disadvantaged when EHU became a part of pitch fees and I had no mains on our caravan. 

Regarding 'If the Club were starting from scratch'; I had similar thoughts about serviced pitches in as much as I suspect that on many sites all (or most) pitches would have water and drainage laid on. 

Posted on 16/08/2017 10:31

We are that little Winter MH EasyT! laughing However, a lot of Club Site prices are very cheap in Winter, and we don't use them in Summer, so happy with the status quo. There's always a site out there to suit us no matter how the ehu is delivered, and I agree with DKs post regarding outlay to provide metered services retrospectively, too high a cost.

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