Electric Hook up

John Bray replied on 11/01/2024 12:54

Posted on 11/01/2024 12:54

I don't know if this has been raised before apologies if it has but I've heard a rumour that the club are planning to introduce additional charges on club sites for electricity, I must stress that its only a rumour but I wondered if anyone else had heard similar and if so could the club please either confirm or deny.

Hja replied on 14/01/2024 12:59

Posted on 14/01/2024 12:59

Summer electricity use has risen as more units have and use air con in hot weather. There is als a move towards using induction hobs, often portable, if on hook up. 

Cornersteady replied on 14/01/2024 13:34

Posted on 14/01/2024 12:52 by KjellNN

I do not think you can apply that generally.

For us, while we were away in the caravan, 2022 was much warmer, and here at home the winter months of 2023  certainly did not feel mild.  Easter 2023 was cold, wet and windy where we were.

Without an accurate record for a particular place, it will be very  difficult to know how the  weather may have affected the use of fuels.

The Club saying a 30% reduction at Wyatts Covert certainly lacks detail, and they have not yet completed a full year on the trial.  

Nor have they given any details on occupancy rates, which may reflect whether members are in favour of metering......or not.

Posted on 14/01/2024 13:34

I'm not K in any way am I?, just stating that it was.

But certainly it was for me (TDA) I remember a very hot June cycling almost every day with temperatures up here in the mid to high twenties, July was about low twenties, and southern Scotland in August was very warm, almost hot as I remember a swim in the sea from the Garlieston site. We had 25C at one point. It was certainly warm to hot in September as I recall being at Manchester airport with just under 30C but then 35C in Italy. We had some great lakes weather for climbing in October. 

And I do recall posting that my last cut of the grass was late November/early December and others posting the same thing, so yes it was a warmer year for me. 

As to your last two paragraphs K that is what I alluded to upthread so I'm not sure why you replying to me to with that? Unless you're agreeing with me.

Cornersteady replied on 14/01/2024 13:48

Posted on 14/01/2024 13:48

At the end of the day, or season or whatever club prices and the way they are managed or averaged, are what they are, people can either pay or not. Agree or not. After lots of cheaper and better sites out there we're often told but then everyone wants a club sites, otherwise why not just go somewhere else, there must be something about club sites I guess?

But lots do go to club sites.

As for me I'm not in favour of metering as it's just another added complication to sort out. I don't abuse but will certainly use whatever I need to enjoy my time away. If it happens it happens and no it will not change anything about the way I will holiday and yes we've used holiday cottages with metering and no it didn't, but then again I don't see any metering in holiday lets now. To go away worrying about shall I use this or not is beyond me but each to their own. I also think it's a myth that people will use every possible appliance while it's all inclusive, why?

Most certainly doesn't happen with all inclusive 24/7 food and drink holidays in my experience. I understand  that some may not want or need what a club site offers, well an obvious answer there and leave club sites to those that do. It would be a sad state if everywhere was the same in my view. 

I think people often forget it's a holiday and no different to a holiday cottage, all inclusive hotel, cruise... 

young thomas replied on 14/01/2024 14:00

Posted on 14/01/2024 12:59 by Hja

Summer electricity use has risen as more units have and use air con in hot weather. There is als a move towards using induction hobs, often portable, if on hook up. 

Posted on 14/01/2024 14:00

A good point....but we should also remember that many larger units (perhaps like the one TTDA was next to) are so geared up NOT to hook up that it's actually a bit of a pain to do so (poor owners actually having to get outside) compared to pressing an electronic switch in the van to turn the gas on (large underslung tank or refillables) and with the 12v supply and mains inverter on all the time constantly being replenished by several solar panels.

yes, a van like that will have a large fridge freezer (like the majority of vans these days) but may be running it off cheap gas and not even require water during their stay...

also, while others may be charging a couple of e-bikes, the large van owner might not be or doing it from their inverter🤷🏻‍♂️, so it may turn out the large van uses less leccy than a small one??

too many missing factors to make anything at all out of the clubs one line update.

when the facts do come out, it needs some sensible interpretation to turn them into useful information that could determine policy going forward.

still so many options ahead but, as mentioned earlier, whatever the club chooses (even do nothing is perfectly valid) it has to be fair for the members as well as the club.

 

Takethedogalong replied on 14/01/2024 14:22

Posted on 14/01/2024 14:22

I think the big outfit was a year rounder YT, he was like us there for an event.  He was surprised to pay same as us, and was hooked up using as much as he could, as it was included in price. There’s no incentive not too.

 

Cornersteady replied on 14/01/2024 14:42

Posted on 14/01/2024 14:42

Last year was the UK's second warmest on record, according to provisional data from the Met Office.
This puts it just behind 2022, which recorded an average temperature of only 0.06C higher.
For both Wales and Northern Ireland, 2023 was their hottest year on record

Takethedogalong replied on 14/01/2024 15:08

Posted on 14/01/2024 15:08

This Winter has certainly been a lot warmer here in South Yorks. I actually have roses in bloom😱paltry little buds, but other plants from the Summer are clinging on, and I have seen trees around in blossom. Scary really, I like a good hard cold spell to kill off a lot of the garden bugs. We don’t have our heating coming on in day either (set at 16c). 

K Brown replied on 14/01/2024 18:42

Posted on 14/01/2024 18:42

If the Club go down the route of metered electricity for site pitches, will the same logic be applied to the clamping pods that they seem to be so enthusiastic about installing? At the moment the price for a glamping pod, safari tent etc, seems to include unlimited use of electricity.

Any thoughts or information about this?

DavidKlyne replied on 14/01/2024 18:48

Posted on 14/01/2024 18:42 by K Brown

If the Club go down the route of metered electricity for site pitches, will the same logic be applied to the clamping pods that they seem to be so enthusiastic about installing? At the moment the price for a glamping pod, safari tent etc, seems to include unlimited use of electricity.

Any thoughts or information about this?

Posted on 14/01/2024 18:48

As I understand it the Pods are run as a separate enterprise so they may not follow suit, but who knows what might happen in the future? It might depend on the seasonal use of such units?

David

 

Takethedogalong replied on 14/01/2024 23:39

Posted on 14/01/2024 23:39

Our friends paid less for two nights in a Glamping Pod (one of those with everything in, including ensuite) than we did for two nights on a near empty site in November. If there’s logic in how the Club applies it’s pricing policy, it’s not registering with us yet🤷‍♀️ 

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