Cost of sites has gone mad

richharry193 replied on 19/04/2023 20:32

Posted on 19/04/2023 20:32

For about 13/14 years we have stayed at North Yorkshire Moors Site.  Its one of our favourite sites on the network and perfect for our family.

Ive just been looking for the end of May as its half term for our kids and was almost floored when i saw the price.  

This is a site which is lovely but has no toilet block. 2 Adults, 3 Children £36.70 per night!!!! When we first stayed there it was £18 i believe.

I then checked scarborough west ayton which we also like and stayed there last year - £60.20 per night

We thought the price we paid at easter at Gwern y Bwlch was bad enough but this is now a complete joke.

We have stayed in a lovely small site only 500 yards up the road, with the best views in whitby and a toilet and its only £18-20 per night.

Do the caravan club actually want anyone to keep with them.  We've been members for 15 years and i am pretty close to leaving now as its just unsustainable.

Do they want families or are they actually just want older couples with dogs to visit their sites and create an exclusive adult only and dog club? 

Im aware the cost of electric etc is rising but not surely by that much!! 

Anyone else think the same or am i just going mad

replied on 24/04/2023 10:44

Posted on 24/04/2023 10:44

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SteveL replied on 24/04/2023 10:54

Posted on 24/04/2023 10:44 by

We are not the greatest  fans of town and city breaks  and it would have to be something  pretty  extraordinary for us to justify  £50 as anything approaching a fair price for the basic offering of a club site

Posted on 24/04/2023 10:54

The site itself is fairly basic David. However, in my opinion the location is not and that’s what I am prepared to pay for.

Takethedogalong replied on 24/04/2023 12:30

Posted on 24/04/2023 10:54 by SteveL

The site itself is fairly basic David. However, in my opinion the location is not and that’s what I am prepared to pay for.

Posted on 24/04/2023 12:30

If you already own an outfit, Sites such as York RP and BW, are still good value, as you are very close to city centre attractions. You wouldn’t get any other kind of City Centre accommodation for a similar price per night. Hence, reasonable vfm. Car parking in York isn’t cheap, or plentiful either, so opting for a site further afield but cheaper might still not represent good value. Better option would be leave MH or car at P&R.

 

SteveL replied on 24/04/2023 13:22

Posted on 24/04/2023 12:30 by Takethedogalong

If you already own an outfit, Sites such as York RP and BW, are still good value, as you are very close to city centre attractions. You wouldn’t get any other kind of City Centre accommodation for a similar price per night. Hence, reasonable vfm. Car parking in York isn’t cheap, or plentiful either, so opting for a site further afield but cheaper might still not represent good value. Better option would be leave MH or car at P&R.

 

Posted on 24/04/2023 13:22

If you already own an outfit, Sites such as York RP and BW, are still good value


I agree. Something like Premier Inn is around £100 a night for that period and parking costs an additional £20 a day. To compare Baltic Wharf with an unnamed CCC site is not realistic. I could compare it with CAMC Malvern at £32 / £35, which also wouldn’t be realistic.

Takethedogalong replied on 24/04/2023 14:04

Posted on 24/04/2023 14:04

I don’t know BW Steve, we have never got to stay, so unable to compare it with anything. York is only 35 minutes from home for us, but we bought tickets for an event pre pandemic, and had no trouble booking the dates either side. Ended up staying a bit longer, as it was that glorious red hot Summer, so we relived our childhood trips and went round things like Jorvik, boat ride on river, walking the walls. It was superb for dogs as well, as Rowntree Park is next door, and lots of places in City let you take in pooches. We cycled from the Site along the river using the orbital cycleways as well. I think we paid £32 a night at the time, it was early July. Lots of eateries close by. YRP has very nice facilities, it’s a bit close set in terms of pitches, it has to be flood proof of course, so lacks the grass, hedges give a bit of landscaping though, and of course the park is next door. Dogs were perfectly safe to be left, they were tired out by day 2, so were practically begging to be left behind to sleep off a good walk, so huge bonus for us. A very different sort of break for us, we are normally up on moors or lost in middle of Dartmoor, but we enjoyed ourselves. We’ed still use it for an event, but not for a long holiday. I don’t think BW is anything like as good for dogs, but not sure?

Wherenext replied on 24/04/2023 16:06

Posted on 24/04/2023 16:06

Ttda,

Both BW and YRP are virtually on the city centre footsteps. You can favourably compare the 2 sites for access to the City. In fact BW is slightly better for us as we could walk out from site and follow the river to visit the Clifton Suspension Bridge, over the bridge and down into the city.

SteveL replied on 24/04/2023 16:12

Posted on 24/04/2023 14:04 by Takethedogalong

I don’t know BW Steve, we have never got to stay, so unable to compare it with anything. York is only 35 minutes from home for us, but we bought tickets for an event pre pandemic, and had no trouble booking the dates either side. Ended up staying a bit longer, as it was that glorious red hot Summer, so we relived our childhood trips and went round things like Jorvik, boat ride on river, walking the walls. It was superb for dogs as well, as Rowntree Park is next door, and lots of places in City let you take in pooches. We cycled from the Site along the river using the orbital cycleways as well. I think we paid £32 a night at the time, it was early July. Lots of eateries close by. YRP has very nice facilities, it’s a bit close set in terms of pitches, it has to be flood proof of course, so lacks the grass, hedges give a bit of landscaping though, and of course the park is next door. Dogs were perfectly safe to be left, they were tired out by day 2, so were practically begging to be left behind to sleep off a good walk, so huge bonus for us. A very different sort of break for us, we are normally up on moors or lost in middle of Dartmoor, but we enjoyed ourselves. We’ed still use it for an event, but not for a long holiday. I don’t think BW is anything like as good for dogs, but not sure?

Posted on 24/04/2023 16:12

From the point of view of museums, restaurants, pubs, theatres, Cathedral, Great Britain etc. everything is within walking distance. Plenty of dog walking alongside the floating harbour, right outside the gate (key supplied) but it would be on a lead. Ashton Court and the Downs would I think be great for dogs but are  40 minutes walk away.

Mikenbike replied on 24/04/2023 16:53

Posted on 24/04/2023 07:27 by SteveL

re Baltic wharf Mikenbike put…
This year I discovered our 5 nights there are suddenly ranging from £45 to £56 per night, with an average of £52.  Ok, it's a bank holiday, but meanwhile, the CCC club site we book equally regularly has somehow managed to remain a reasonable £31 per night for the exact same 5 nights in May.  

£31 versus £52.  That is a really significant difference, so I'm afraid I have to agree with the original poster on this thread. 

However, unless they’ve opened one without me noticing, the CCC site isn’t on the harbour side in the centre of Bristol.
Price comparisons only have any validity if you compare like with like. Plus I think your last price for September 21 will be artificially lowered by the Vat reduction. For us when we visit, as we want to be in the centre of Bristol it is good value for money.

Just one additional point, as you have a MH and haven’t been since Sept 21. The site is within the new Bristol LEZ. If you haven’t done so, it’s worth checking if there is any charge for your MH.

Posted on 24/04/2023 16:53

Price comparisons only have any validity if you compare like with like

That's fair comment, so here's what we've paid at the CCC (Devizes) site in recent years.  

Jun-14   £20.45

May-16  £20.90

Apr-17  £21.58

Mar-20  £19.15

Sep-21  £27.14

May-23  £27.60

(May Bank Hols 2023  £31)

Those rises are far more modest than those we've experienced at Baltic Wharf.

Note that CAMC's Baltic Wharf in Sep-21 was 26% higher than CCC's Devizes, a premium that was fair and understandable.   

Two years later and this same CAMC site is now 68% higher than the CCC site for the exact same nights. 

The CAMC site fee has almost doubled in the last 5 years.  The CCC site has increased just 50%...... in the past 9 years. 

Hopefully you'll feel that's a fairer comparison.

There is no doubt in my mind that CAMC's recent site fee increases have outstripped CCC's by some considerable margin. 

Takethedogalong replied on 24/04/2023 17:07

Posted on 24/04/2023 16:12 by SteveL

From the point of view of museums, restaurants, pubs, theatres, Cathedral, Great Britain etc. everything is within walking distance. Plenty of dog walking alongside the floating harbour, right outside the gate (key supplied) but it would be on a lead. Ashton Court and the Downs would I think be great for dogs but are  40 minutes walk away.

Posted on 24/04/2023 17:07

Thanks Steve and WN. Probably not dog friendly enough for us if it’s on a lead, on hard stuff sadly.  Plenty of other sites suit though, and for those without a dog it sounds ideal.

Tinwheeler replied on 24/04/2023 17:12

Posted on 24/04/2023 17:12

I’m not sure that a site alongside the Kennet and Avon Canal near Devizes equates to the quayside in the City of Bristol tbh, MnB 🤷🏻‍♂️.

I much prefer Devizes, btw, and would need to be paid more than £50 p/n to visit BW but that's just me😀

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