Cost of sites has gone mad

richharry193 replied on 19/04/2023 20:32

Posted on 19/04/2023 20:32

For about 13/14 years we have stayed at North Yorkshire Moors Site.  Its one of our favourite sites on the network and perfect for our family.

Ive just been looking for the end of May as its half term for our kids and was almost floored when i saw the price.  

This is a site which is lovely but has no toilet block. 2 Adults, 3 Children £36.70 per night!!!! When we first stayed there it was £18 i believe.

I then checked scarborough west ayton which we also like and stayed there last year - £60.20 per night

We thought the price we paid at easter at Gwern y Bwlch was bad enough but this is now a complete joke.

We have stayed in a lovely small site only 500 yards up the road, with the best views in whitby and a toilet and its only £18-20 per night.

Do the caravan club actually want anyone to keep with them.  We've been members for 15 years and i am pretty close to leaving now as its just unsustainable.

Do they want families or are they actually just want older couples with dogs to visit their sites and create an exclusive adult only and dog club? 

Im aware the cost of electric etc is rising but not surely by that much!! 

Anyone else think the same or am i just going mad

EmilysDad replied on 24/04/2023 23:36

Posted on 24/04/2023 21:52 by Cornersteady

Prices are clearly displayed even after adding the extra adult and you could have stopped there and then, it actually takes more effort to continue to payment and backing out is easy - just close the window. As I've said many times I've never bought anything if I thought I was being ripped off.

Yes club sites fees have increased but it's not money grabbing, that's just your view and not a fact of course, but again if you think that I still don't understand why you don't cancel if your trip is within 21 days and find somewhere better but I'll leave that there.

For my view club sites still offer excellent VFM.

Have a great trip.

 

 

Posted on 24/04/2023 23:36

 ....  it actually takes more effort to continue to payment and backing out is easy - just close the window

But obviously more effort would have been needed to start all over again ....

GEandGJE replied on 25/04/2023 00:36

Posted on 24/04/2023 21:48 by nelliethehooker

However you wouldn't need to pay those exorbitant prices at BW, or other CC sites, being an employee of the club, would you?

Posted on 25/04/2023 00:36

That's a bit of a low blow to somebody giving their opinion in a debate.

Mikenbike replied on 25/04/2023 00:46

Posted on 24/04/2023 17:12 by Tinwheeler

I’m not sure that a site alongside the Kennet and Avon Canal near Devizes equates to the quayside in the City of Bristol tbh, MnB 🤷🏻‍♂️.

I much prefer Devizes, btw, and would need to be paid more than £50 p/n to visit BW but that's just me😀

Posted on 25/04/2023 00:46

"I’m not sure that a site alongside the Kennet and Avon Canal near Devizes equates to the quayside in the City of Bristol tbh, MnB 🤷🏻‍♂️."

Which is why I'm not attempting to compare the sites.  What I've compared is the fee increase for each club over time. 

Ok, my figures are only based on a tiny sample size of one site from each club, so that alone is not statistically valid, but taken with other people's figures, it does point to the direction of travel:  the deeper I look, the more it appears CAMC fee increases have far outstripped the competition in the last year or two.  

Some won't care a hoot and that's fine too. 

I've only posted here because I believe what the original poster says is perfectly correct and my own historical figures very much support his assertion. 

 

peedee replied on 25/04/2023 07:18

Posted on 24/04/2023 21:08 by brue

There are plenty of good locations so if you've already been to an expensive one like Baltic Wharf (where it would now cost people like us an extra £9 CAZ twice for exit and entrance) try something new for less money. 😉 

Posted on 25/04/2023 07:18

Yes there are alternatives. In the past I have stayed at BW many times, but the last two visits I have stayed on a C&CC CS for £15p.n. For me to pay even over £40p.n. it has to be somewhere special and BW isn't it. FYI the CAZ charge for some is £100 x 2 so absolutely rules out staying there if you are classed as an HGV.(over 3.5 tons).

peedee

Cornersteady replied on 25/04/2023 07:54

Posted on 24/04/2023 23:36 by EmilysDad

 ....  it actually takes more effort to continue to payment and backing out is easy - just close the window

But obviously more effort would have been needed to start all over again ....

Posted on 25/04/2023 07:54

As you say obviously, but as I read it it would just mean finding alternatives to the two club sites on a tour, not really a great effort my view.

Or just be ripped off or forced to stump up - I know what I would do.

Tinwheeler replied on 25/04/2023 09:10

Posted on 25/04/2023 00:46 by Mikenbike

"I’m not sure that a site alongside the Kennet and Avon Canal near Devizes equates to the quayside in the City of Bristol tbh, MnB 🤷🏻‍♂️."

Which is why I'm not attempting to compare the sites.  What I've compared is the fee increase for each club over time. 

Ok, my figures are only based on a tiny sample size of one site from each club, so that alone is not statistically valid, but taken with other people's figures, it does point to the direction of travel:  the deeper I look, the more it appears CAMC fee increases have far outstripped the competition in the last year or two.  

Some won't care a hoot and that's fine too. 

I've only posted here because I believe what the original poster says is perfectly correct and my own historical figures very much support his assertion. 

 

Posted on 25/04/2023 09:10

You can only compare fee increases between clubs if you look at all site fees. My point was that to compare fees for two sites as diverse as BW and Devizes is not a valid comparison.

No one will dispute that CAMC fees have risen, and they may indeed have risen more than those of C&CC, but the OPs post is not free of anomalies as was pointed out at the start of this thread. 

If CAMC prices are jumping ahead of C&CC, so what? No one has to use CAMC when alternatives are available. It’s a bit like doing our weekly shop in M&S and complaining about the cost when Aldi is available next door. We each make our choices and it’s good we’re free to do so.👍

moulesy replied on 25/04/2023 09:23

Posted on 24/04/2023 23:36 by EmilysDad

 ....  it actually takes more effort to continue to payment and backing out is easy - just close the window

But obviously more effort would have been needed to start all over again ....

Posted on 25/04/2023 09:23

Really? I mean how much effort is it to Google a location followed by "caravan sites"? Or simply go to one of the many site finders? It's not for the whole trip, just one site isn't it? undecided

vbfg replied on 25/04/2023 09:30

Posted on 24/04/2023 12:30 by Takethedogalong

If you already own an outfit, Sites such as York RP and BW, are still good value, as you are very close to city centre attractions. You wouldn’t get any other kind of City Centre accommodation for a similar price per night. Hence, reasonable vfm. Car parking in York isn’t cheap, or plentiful either, so opting for a site further afield but cheaper might still not represent good value. Better option would be leave MH or car at P&R.

 

Posted on 25/04/2023 09:30

Just catching up and saw your comment.  You make a very valid point as a few years ago I stayed at the site near to Grassington and as the day I was leaving was so beautiful, I thought that I would stop off for a few hours at Bolton Abbey.  The car park, which is right next to the CMHC site, charged almost as much for a few hours parking as it cost to actually stay at the Bolton Abbey site!  I don't think that the car park, next to the strid charges such high rates, so I wonder if they are owned by the same people.  Since then I have stayed at the Bolton Abbey site a couple of times and it is a lovely site which was worth the site fee, although I am not sure what the site fees are now!

brue replied on 25/04/2023 09:46

Posted on 25/04/2023 07:18 by peedee

Yes there are alternatives. In the past I have stayed at BW many times, but the last two visits I have stayed on a C&CC CS for £15p.n. For me to pay even over £40p.n. it has to be somewhere special and BW isn't it. FYI the CAZ charge for some is £100 x 2 so absolutely rules out staying there if you are classed as an HGV.(over 3.5 tons).

peedee

Posted on 25/04/2023 09:46

Yes it's sadly now totally prohibitive for some van owners but for others I think a one off visit is worth it. Bristol harbour is unique and it's a bit like Venice, worth seeing from the water. The ferries are there just outside the site and the city sights and cafes have a lot to offer. So personally I'd always recommend a visit especially if it includes one of the festivals.

Other city sites are going to become much more expensive due to CAZ expanding. So make the best of them while you can. smile

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