Consequences of obsession with rules

Rod10 replied on 02/08/2023 23:37

Posted on 02/08/2023 23:37

The Met Office issued a Yellow Warning for unseasonally high winds for the past two days on the South Coast. My pitch is very exposed to the wind but my booking is for 9 days and the awning is fully set up for dining, cooking and bike storage.

Without casing any inconvenience to other members, and fully maintaining the 6m fire gap, I attempted to protect our 1075cm awning from storm damage, until the storm passed, by parking inches from the front of the awning. I explained this to a warden who initially queried the fire gap but I assured him I personally measured and was confident in adhering to fire regs.

Some time later, the same warden returned with another and told me I needed to move my car because it was “breaching fire regs” I reminded them I measured the gap and in response, the other warden stated I could not have any wheels on grass, apparently oblivious to the pitch opposite parking their car with one set of wheels on grass and of course, there are grass pitches with cars parked anyway so this is a ludicrous explanation.

I asked them to be reasonable, to acknowledge the potential and very real risk of a wrecked awning and assured them I would move the car as soon as the storm passed.

To my utter astonishment, the other warden suddenly said she would ask me to leave unless I moved the car!

Highlighting the storm warning from the Met Office, I asked them if they were fully aware of the risk of damage to my awning but this fell on deaf ears. With the alternative of packing up in high winds and risking driving unnecessarily, I moved my car.

As a direct consequence to this now familiar obsession with Club rules and total inflexibility, my awning was badly damaged, torn and I now face a 4hr round trip in the morning to have emergency repairs done by Isabella. Isabella were excellent with true customer focus and said they will turn the repairs around in one week.

What would you have done and what would you now do regarding the damaged awning? I phoned East Grinstead for advice before the damage was done. They were sympathetic but unable to help.

SteveL replied on 03/08/2023 07:23

Posted on 03/08/2023 07:23

Personally, if the storm warnings were severe enough to anticipate damage I would have taken it down, despite the inconvenience. 

peedee replied on 03/08/2023 07:37

Posted on 03/08/2023 07:37

I agree with Steve. We have been in such situations and everyone has mucked in and helped each other get awnings down. I doubt the car would have offered much protection in a good blow.

peedee

Rod10 replied on 03/08/2023 08:14

Posted on 03/08/2023 07:37 by peedee

I agree with Steve. We have been in such situations and everyone has mucked in and helped each other get awnings down. I doubt the car would have offered much protection in a good blow.

peedee

Posted on 03/08/2023 08:14

By the time I returned to the site, it was already blowing a gale and on assessment, it appeared more dangerous to dismantle the awning than to protect it in situ. The car has 360 degree cameras and can be parked within centimetres of the awning, giving very effective protection from the direct blast of the wind.

Having towed my van and used my awning in France, Spain, Morocco and the Sahara, where we experienced severe winds, my awning sustained zero damage because common sense prevailed and people rightly shield their awnings with their cars - without the threat of having to leave the site!

Would the safety of someone’s awning not be a higher priority in the moment, than adherence pegs and rules? It strikes me the purpose of the warden is to enforce rules, not to ensure customers have an enjoyable and pleasant stay.

Customer focus was zero…

 

Tinwheeler replied on 03/08/2023 08:35

Posted on 03/08/2023 08:35

I think the higher priority would be fire risk, tbh, rather than the damage to one person’s awning. It’s not really about pegs and rules but about safety and the customer focus was on all the campers.

You know from previous experience that the warden’s word is final and I’m sorry you suffered awning damage but it’s life.

replied on 03/08/2023 08:51

Posted on 03/08/2023 08:35 by Tinwheeler

I think the higher priority would be fire risk, tbh, rather than the damage to one person’s awning. It’s not really about pegs and rules but about safety and the customer focus was on all the campers.

You know from previous experience that the warden’s word is final and I’m sorry you suffered awning damage but it’s life.

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Tinwheeler replied on 03/08/2023 08:58

Posted on 03/08/2023 08:51 by

The OP says he was fully maintaining the fire gap.  The warden was complaining about car wheels on the grass despite others doing the same.  

I wonder what the warden would have done if the OP had refused to move the car and refused to leave why asked?  

Posted on 03/08/2023 08:58

The warden disagreed that the OP was maintaining the fire gap and that, to me, is the most relevant factor.

MikeyA replied on 03/08/2023 08:59

Posted on 03/08/2023 08:59

You know from previous experience that the warden’s word is final and I’m sorry you suffered awning damage but it’s life.

 

Oh, the joys of life on a CAMC site - I think I'll give it a miss.  laughing

young thomas replied on 03/08/2023 09:01

Posted on 03/08/2023 09:01

The risk of a fire in the storms predicted seemed unlikely.....🌧️🌧️🌧️🌧️🌧️🌧️

Rod, put it down to experience and focus on the service you've been given by Isabella.

hope it works out.

moulesy replied on 03/08/2023 09:07

Posted on 03/08/2023 09:07

Reminds me of our tenting days, sitting up all night in a storm on Guernsey holding on to the tent poles to stop it blowing away! surprised

We rarely used a full awning with the van but even with our little porch awning, we'd have taken it down in advance - better safe than sorry! I appreciate it's not so convenient if you have a full awning set up in the way the OP had. 

Don't want to get into the rights or wrongs of what the wardens decided and, although clearly an inconvenience, I assume the cost of damage to the awning, transporting it etc. would be covered by insurance at least.

Tinwheeler replied on 03/08/2023 09:13

Posted on 03/08/2023 09:13

The risk of a fire in the storms predicted seemed unlikely.....

Or maybe more likely with the wind fanning any flames 🤷🏻‍♂️

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