Club prices getting silly

richardandros replied on 25/10/2021 14:18

Posted on 25/10/2021 14:18

I'm not one who normally complains about site fees. It's quite simple - you either accept them, or you don't! We are both fortunate in that we are retired with good pensions and don't have to count the 'pennies' too much.  However, I have just attempted to book two nights at Broadway as a stop-over on our way to Devon, next June. For two people on a normal hardstanding pitch on 5 June (not a peak holiday period), we are being asked to pay £39.40 and for the following night, £35.10 - that's over £74 for two nights.  Compare that with 14 nights at the C&CC site at Dartmouth - which is lovely and just as good, if not better than most CAMC sites - for £311.

I think this is ridiculous and will be looking elsewhere.

That said, I am not averse to paying premium prices if it seems justified - we will be paying something like £37pn at Sandringham, this Christmas - but I would expect that at that time of year due to increased demand - but not in what I see as a 'low/mid season' period.

I don't use Club sites very often and if this is the way things are going, together with the threat of introducing deposits I can't see me using them at all in the future.

Rant over - but I think this is a step too far.

 

Cornersteady replied on 05/02/2023 10:48

Posted on 05/02/2023 10:09 by

Nah consult your records.wink Venice comparison  was with Dartford and BTW it wasn't school holidays. 

Posted on 05/02/2023 10:48

Which site did you stay at near Dartford? Been there a few times, not exactly crowded or a tourist trap?

DEBSC replied on 05/02/2023 11:17

Posted on 05/02/2023 10:03 by JollyKernow

Good Morning

I'd honestly like to know what the "silent majority" want NTH. The club offer several non facilities sites that are a reasonable price per night, my site this year is around £20 off the top of my head (computer is down!), yet their occupancy figures show that people are really interested in them. It can't always be the site's location as the figures are pretty mush all the same. CL's local to here are struggling to fill spaces as well. I know two owners who are considering this to be their last year as there's no demand. 

JK

 

Posted on 05/02/2023 11:17

A great shame to hear that some sites are thinking of closing up JK. As you are probably aware, locals would rather see many caravans arriving, campers and people holidaying at holiday parks, hotels and B&Bs. What we don’t want is more using holiday cottages and Airbnb’s. With so many second homes and holiday lets locally many villages are loosing their historical ‘village community’. Many villages are almost totally empty in the winter. With next to no social housing in North Devon and tenants in rental homes being evicted to make way for Airbnb use our local councils have announced a very severe housing crisis. Young people here don’t get a look in with so many buying and using what should be homes as holiday homes. Pubs, restaurants and cafes are closing because they cannot get youngsters to work for the wages offered, due to staff having nowhere to live locally. Other restaurants and pubs have had to hike their prices in order to attract any staff they can, so I think that we and the holidaymakers will be paying a lot more to go out here this year. 

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DavidKlyne replied on 05/02/2023 14:58

Posted on 05/02/2023 10:19 by Hja

I do think there is a real issue about providing for what people APPEAR to want but ignoring what those who don’t visit want. I hope that makes sense. It applies to other things not just caravan sites.

I wonder if many CAMC members who have been members for a long time appreciate the security of club sites which are usually well kept, but because they have been caravanning or motorhoming for a while have gradually upgraded to vans with more facilities and so are happy with no facility sites, whilst families like all the facilities. Families probably spend less time away than us oldies, so higher prices become less of a problem.

I had gained the impression that CLs were gaining in popularity, so I am surprised at the low occupancy you report. I suspect that some members are still afraid of them! They really are not sure of what to expect. Also, from some site reviews you read, people are unduly cautious about driving down lanes even for short distances.

Some CLs need to sell themselves, I suspect. But how much effort and money you put into such an exercise will surely depend on how important the CL business is to your overall income. the Club also should be selling CLs to a far greater extent than they do.

All generalisations of course. And there will be plenty of members who say “that doesn’t apply to me”.

Posted on 05/02/2023 14:58

Hja

I am not sure if I have misunderstood JK's post but it appeared to me that he was suggesting that despite their better value no facility sites were not always as popular as full facility sites? It might of course be nothing to do with the actual sites per se but their location. Given the increase in motorhome ownership no doubt there will be an increase in demand for hardstandings so perhaps that is becoming more of an issue if you have a site without. The same will be true of CL's. Going back to location, an out of the way site might be fine if you are a caravanner with a car but not so good if you are a motorhomer? An increasing number of CL owners seem to be investing a lot of money in their CL's to almost make them into mini Club sites. However that takes a lot on money and prices naturally rise in order to recoup the investment. As I mentioned before the Club can only look at their occupancy rates across the network. They can drill down into that information to work out what sort of pitches appear more popular and which ones tend to be avoided, using that information they can plan with some certainty when they update a site.

David

Tinwheeler replied on 05/02/2023 15:20

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Posted on 05/02/2023 15:20

Even being a local person I didn’t realise you meant Dartmouth, David. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Tammygirl replied on 05/02/2023 15:46

Posted on 05/02/2023 15:46

We like the non facility sites, yes they are sometimes out of the way but then again some of the sites are. 

Englethwaite Hall is always busy yet locally there is nothing for the MHs but you often see quite a few on site. We use it as a night halt when travelling to and from the South, I'm sure other's do likewise. 

Dockray Meadow is another non facility site, again unless you are prepared to cycle from the site there is nothing locally for the MHs, yet again we always see a good number of them on site. 

Killin is another favourite of ours, less than a mile from the full CAMC site always lots of MHs on it.

More and more MH owners are getting into the way of sightseeing, as they go from one site to another, so sites out of the way does not disadvantage them.

You only have to look at the popularity of the NC500 to see that MH owners are not put off by rural sites.

The main thing that this group of members are looking for, is VFM when choosing a site. They don't sit around all day on site they are out there 'doing' what they do look for is a site that is well placed and not overly expensive, just a nice clean place to park there wheels and get a good night's sleep safely.

They don't need to spend £35+ a night and neither do we. 

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