Charging electric cars on Club sites.

cariadon replied on 19/12/2017 12:02

Posted on 19/12/2017 12:02

With the government wanting all cars to be electric in years to come and some MHers have them as runarounds how do you think the club should address the issue, This is NOT a thread against electric cars.

Do you think the club should change the bollard to accommodate the second connection, have a designated charging area and should the charging bollard be metered so you pay as you use, or the cost added to pitch fee, or any other suggestion.

Spriddler replied on 27/12/2017 19:36

Posted on 27/12/2017 19:36

Weren't we told that our oil and gas was going to be as cheap as chips when our own supplies came on stream?

EV's cheap to run too?

Yeah, right.

JVB66 replied on 27/12/2017 19:48

Posted on 27/12/2017 19:36 by Spriddler

Weren't we told that our oil and gas was going to be as cheap as chips when our own supplies came on stream?

EV's cheap to run too?

Yeah, right.

Posted on 27/12/2017 19:48

That was when it was first discovered,we were also told that the gas would only be household use ,but when pushed said we were told "domestic use" which now  includes "domestic" industry,which is the reason we now have to import gas

hitchglitch replied on 27/12/2017 21:42

Posted on 27/12/2017 21:42

Overnight slow charge on EVs is generally 10 amp maximum which is fine for supplying from a Caravan external socket.

Concerning the safety risk from a crashed vehicle, would you rather approach a vehicle containing 10 gallons of highly flammable liquid which will ignite at the smallest spark or an EV with fully insulated terminals and connections.

Concerning power outages, doesn’t anybody remember tanker driver strikes and refinery blockages by road tanker drivers? Also, how about the Suez crisis? Supply of refined fuel is potentially more uncertain than electrical power. Just look at the logistics of getting fuel to petrol stations, oil production, pipelines, tankers, refineries, road transport, underground storage etc. compared with distribution of Electricity across existing networks.

JVB66 replied on 27/12/2017 22:50

Posted on 27/12/2017 22:50

10 amp without any other draw on the mcb

The infrastructure will be the expensive yet to be costed part?

SteveL replied on 27/12/2017 23:03

Posted on 27/12/2017 23:03

Concerning the safety risk from a crashed vehicle, would you rather approach a vehicle containing 10 gallons of highly flammable liquid which will ignite at the smallest spark or an EV with fully insulated terminals and connections.

If no fuel is leaking and everything looks OK, probably the petrol one. It is a lot more difficult to spot leaking electricity. Until of couse you touch it. 😖 Everything might have been well insulated before the crash, afterwards, who knows.

However, I posed the question because I feel it is something we may need to be concerned about as more and more EV's enter use. I can't say that I have seen any reports, re their safety in accidents, either way. The Marshalls at the Grand Prix had insulated gloves.

SteveL replied on 27/12/2017 23:18

Posted on 27/12/2017 23:18

Just look at the logistics of getting fuel to petrol stations, oil production, pipelines, tankers, refineries, road transport, underground storage etc. compared with distribution of Electricity across existing networks.

You need to make the electricity first though. Where is all this extra capacity going to come from. As I understand it available power generation is already stretched to capacity at certain times. Add on potentially millions of EV's and unless we do something fairly radical, the lights will go out. There are of couse currently slack times when there is over capacity, perhaps folk will only be able to charge at these times, which could be slightly inconvenient.

replied on 28/12/2017 00:21

Posted on 26/12/2017 13:59 by

Just increase the road fund licence for EVs to £1000 per annum ( or more!)

Posted on 28/12/2017 00:21

The road fund licence is free for my new Smart Electric as it is for my existing Smart car.

hitchglitch replied on 28/12/2017 07:39

Posted on 27/12/2017 23:18 by SteveL

Just look at the logistics of getting fuel to petrol stations, oil production, pipelines, tankers, refineries, road transport, underground storage etc. compared with distribution of Electricity across existing networks.

You need to make the electricity first though. Where is all this extra capacity going to come from. As I understand it available power generation is already stretched to capacity at certain times. Add on potentially millions of EV's and unless we do something fairly radical, the lights will go out. There are of couse currently slack times when there is over capacity, perhaps folk will only be able to charge at these times, which could be slightly inconvenient.

Posted on 28/12/2017 07:39

National Grid have done a number of extensive studies and are satisfied that the small additional capacity required can be accommodated within the existing networks. 

Oneputt replied on 28/12/2017 07:41

Posted on 27/12/2017 19:36 by Spriddler

Weren't we told that our oil and gas was going to be as cheap as chips when our own supplies came on stream?

EV's cheap to run too?

Yeah, right.

Posted on 28/12/2017 07:41

Your right and the reality is that it is until tax piled on by government.  Crude oil is tax about 3 times before it gets to the pumps where it is taxed again

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