Charging electric cars on Club sites.

cariadon replied on 19/12/2017 12:02

Posted on 19/12/2017 12:02

With the government wanting all cars to be electric in years to come and some MHers have them as runarounds how do you think the club should address the issue, This is NOT a thread against electric cars.

Do you think the club should change the bollard to accommodate the second connection, have a designated charging area and should the charging bollard be metered so you pay as you use, or the cost added to pitch fee, or any other suggestion.

Cornersteady replied on 21/12/2017 22:36

Posted on 21/12/2017 21:10 by JVB66

It could be an advantage having the lead at head height might assist stopping "pitch invasion" that some seem to have a problem withsurprised

Posted on 21/12/2017 22:36

or you could hang fairy lights on them?

Navigateur replied on 22/12/2017 08:53

Posted on 22/12/2017 08:53

We have charging points at Railway stations and some Supermarkets which are usually continuously populated by EV's charging their batteries.

Is this not a huge problem for the users of these vehicles that they have run out of fuel and, although there are charging points, all of them are already connected to a vehicle. It is bad enough for most people to wait five minutes for the next available diesel pump, but having to wait 45 minutes for someone to finish shopping, or until they return from work at 6:30pm will make the idea of recharging quite pointless (other puns are available).

What is the way around this block?  Can one person disconnct another vehicle to connect theirs? Can they do it while charge is still available - either to use up and left-over charge once the first vehicle is full, or to steal what someone else is paying for?  In fact, does one have to pay at all for these charges?

brue replied on 22/12/2017 09:16

Posted on 22/12/2017 09:16

Ours charger locks in and the fast charge can take less than15 mins but as it wouldn't be a full charge (how could you get  there on a flat battery?) you can take out the connector at any point and pay for what you've used, similar to a petrol pump. Some chargers are free, some are pay as you go with a card.

Navigateur replied on 22/12/2017 09:40

Posted on 22/12/2017 09:40

how could you get there on a flat battery?

Good point.  

Will one electric vehicle have enough capacity to tow another?  Or should charging points be created only at the bottom of hills - assuming that there is a "free wheel" function available?

brue replied on 22/12/2017 09:57

Posted on 22/12/2017 09:57

It's the regenerative braking that helps....but I must be boring the pants off everyone on here so I'm going to leave the debate now. wink

JVB66 replied on 22/12/2017 10:08

Posted on 22/12/2017 09:57 by brue

It's the regenerative braking that helps....but I must be boring the pants off everyone on here so I'm going to leave the debate now. wink

Posted on 22/12/2017 10:08

I for one are quite interested,as we may go for a Hibrid as our next tow vehicle(EVs not yet capable) but have yet to find out properly what the current draw is when charging,the batteries ,is ten amps as per the the biggest MCB in a caravan really enoughundecided

brue replied on 22/12/2017 10:37

Posted on 22/12/2017 10:37

Just to re-assure you JVB, yes, but it will be quite a slow charge, it would be quicker for us at present with a full EV just to visit a fast charger elsewhere but some hybrid users (much smaller battery) obviously choose to do it on site. So you would be ok. Anyway that's enough from me. smile

KjellNN replied on 22/12/2017 10:46

Posted on 22/12/2017 10:46

From what I have been reading recently, 10 amps is OK, but the time for a total charge could be quite long.  For instance the little Smart EV  might need about 20kwh, so at 10 amps that could be about 9 hours.

Assuming nothing else uses the same circuit, that would leave you 6amps to use elsewhere meantime......fridge, battery charger, TV, lights and not much else.  Probably no heating or HW unless you are using nothing else, and then heating and HW could use around 1 kw.

I think you would get through a fair bit of gas in cold weather!

With a hybrid you would need much less .

Cornersteady replied on 22/12/2017 11:01

Posted on 22/12/2017 09:57 by brue

It's the regenerative braking that helps....but I must be boring the pants off everyone on here so I'm going to leave the debate now. wink

Posted on 22/12/2017 11:01

you're not actually, I'm looking at the Kia Niro for our 'runaround' ie not towing car and it comes with either plug in and the regenerative braking non plug in type. Does the plug in version still have regenerative braking so that it charges the battery while driving or replies on the plug in totally.

I'm not totally confident on having a full type EV yet due to range.  

JVB66 replied on 22/12/2017 11:04

Posted on 22/12/2017 11:04

Thats what i have so far found,its just the Hybrids i saw at FM in the summer neither of the owners were sure what else they could use when charging,and did not want to face the wrath of the site staff if they kept tripping the bollardssurprised  so kept the other big power draw equipment turned offembarassed

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