C&CC closing sites

Tinwheeler replied on 16/07/2021 19:22

Posted on 16/07/2021 19:22

I read elsewhere that C&CC are closing some sites and cancelling people’s bookings due to staff shortages. Sure enough, it's true and they've updated their website today. I hope nobody here is affected.

C&CC site closures

 

 

brue replied on 19/07/2021 15:43

Posted on 19/07/2021 15:43

Yes, I wasn't sure about the system and don't know if it's been successful. A lot of companies do it but it can be restrictive although it also works for some.

replied on 19/07/2021 17:15

Posted on 19/07/2021 15:39 by Tinwheeler

The C&CC franchise system works by private site owners paying C&CC for the privilege of being treated as a club site. When the scheme first started site owners were asked to pay £30k as far as I recall.

Posted on 19/07/2021 17:15

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Takethedogalong replied on 19/07/2021 17:42

Posted on 19/07/2021 17:42

Re your last paragraph WTG, it might simply be the amount of staff now having to self isolate. If so, then this Club and it’s Sites are just as vulnerable. Looking at the latest case rates, a lot of services, shops, businesses are going to be caught up in having to self isolate. 

Tinwheeler replied on 19/07/2021 17:45

Posted on 19/07/2021 17:15 by

The fee is now £35,000 plus VAT and franchisees have to commit for 10 years. I thought that fee probably covered all the marketing and IT costs; not so: the Club charges £3,000 p.a. plus VAT each for those services. Plus they have to give back a percentage of fees. Knowing nothing about business at all, I was a bit surprised by the costs involved.

The C&CC used to indicate in the handbook which of its sites were franchised sites but no longer do that. I came across that info while searching the website (in vain) for the franchise sites list. I have stayed on 2 that I know of, and a 3rd that I think is one such . Possibly more. They were of a high standard. 

There is considerable disquiet - if not anger - being expressed on the C&CC Forum about the site closures, short notice (both to members and staff), and lack of communication.

Posted on 19/07/2021 17:45

The costs involved suggest the site owners gain a great deal of income from operating as a C&CC franchised site rather than by paddling their own canoe.

I've stayed at the Hereford site - liked that but not so much the Cheddar site. Isle of Skye is one we've not got around to trying.

Navigateur replied on 19/07/2021 17:57

Posted on 19/07/2021 17:57

There are regularly complaints on the Camping Club forum about sometimes not being able to transfer the deposit of a booking from one site to another - and, of course, no refunds!   From previous discussions this is due to franchisees not being able to pass on the funds.

replied on 19/07/2021 18:04

Posted on 19/07/2021 17:45 by Tinwheeler

The costs involved suggest the site owners gain a great deal of income from operating as a C&CC franchised site rather than by paddling their own canoe.

I've stayed at the Hereford site - liked that but not so much the Cheddar site. Isle of Skye is one we've not got around to trying.

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Stevesie replied on 20/07/2021 11:59

Posted on 17/07/2021 10:33 by eurortraveller

Build accommodation on site to attract applications for work from younger people living in the local area who are struggling to get houses - instead of looking for middle aged married couples brought in from miles away who are rich enough to buy a caravan or motorhome which is big enough to live in for long periods.

Employ a site manager as receptionist to handle arrivals and departures and front of house contact with visitors, but use local companies as contractors for cleaning, maintenance and gardening. Put big bins at the gate for garbage and recycling stuff instead of sending a warden round every day to empty domestic sized bins.

Don’t successful sites do all this now?

 

Posted on 20/07/2021 11:59

Could have been drafted up by a government privatisation advisor.  Why not scrap the club and sell the sites off to the commercial sector?  I’m happy with sites run by experienced members myself.

JVB66 replied on 12/10/2021 10:53

Posted on 17/07/2021 09:27 by Rocky 2 buckets

They could pay such a good wage they’d have prospective employees on a list just waiting for an opening to get on board👍🏻. Really good employers tend not to have staffing issues.

Posted on 12/10/2021 10:53

And then with the site price increases to match ,undecided

In the past there was always a waiting list of prospective employees looking in from the outside,  until they were on the inside and realis just what the job entailswink

JVB66 replied on 12/10/2021 16:11

Posted on 20/07/2021 11:59 by Stevesie

Could have been drafted up by a government privatisation advisor.  Why not scrap the club and sell the sites off to the commercial sector?  I’m happy with sites run by experienced members myself.

Posted on 12/10/2021 16:11

One thing that some people fail to realise is that the majority of cc and ccc sites are on a lease or run by the clubs on behalf of the owners. which by trying to   as is suggested put in locals with accommodation  provided may work m on some all year sites but not the many others ,that are seasonal ? surprised

 

Rocky 2 buckets replied on 12/10/2021 17:10

Posted on 12/10/2021 10:53 by JVB66

And then with the site price increases to match ,undecided

In the past there was always a waiting list of prospective employees looking in from the outside,  until they were on the inside and realis just what the job entailswink

Posted on 12/10/2021 17:10

If you(people) can’t afford to pay a decent price you shouldn’t be doing the whole LV thing. Driving costs down to the lowest common denominator is why this Country is in such a mess, no manufacturing, failing inner citys, unreliable infrastructure just so well off folk can have even more & even cheaper. Things must & are changing🤷🏻‍♂️. Nirvana for some but Hell for others. It’s on its way👍🏻

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