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A bit late in picking this up I know but this is where the Club could step in and expand on here what exactly is meant by a 25 percent increase in energy costs. I.m left believing it is down to consumption and DSB seems to add weight to that fact.

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I view van costs as being amortised over the the ownership period. So with a damp finger here goes.

Going a bit off track here but I am led to believe that from new in the first year you take a big hit (lose the VAT?) and in years 1 to 9 depreciation is 5 percent per annum then 15 percent in its 10th year. after than I have no idea.

These are the figures I use for insured value.

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This year, maybe because of the change in the booking system, they have tried to be a bit more transparent about it.

That did make me smile David; the thought of transparency did amuse me somewhat. Sadly I stopped believing in the Easter Bunny and Santa many years ago. Guess that I must be a cynic 

interesting....my son and partner both work full time for the emergency services....they have just (2 years ago) bought a flat....

they didn't have a car and cycled to work......I gave them my old Audi when we downsized to a single 'city car'....

they couldn't afford the huge deposit on their Bristol property so 'we helped' make it happen....

a car parking place was another £10k....which was a stretch too far...

the Audi is now 16 years old, still flying but starship miles from my original business use and to think they could find a replacement to tow a caravan they can't afford (and nowhere to keep) is totally unrealistic......

so, they 'go away' at short notice on the cheapest flights possible, back pack and use cheap hotels and the like, eating local food, often in the street....

they love what they do and have seen the world....more than us and we are pretty well travelled....

they like the occasional family get together at a site that takes vans, their tent, lodges etc....but this is not their idea of a (real) holiday...

IMHO, caravanning/MHing certainly isn't a cheap form of holidaying, not in the way most forum members do it......£40k tow cars every 3/4 years and £25k caravans every other NEC show...

add in the fixed costs to maintain new(ish) cars/vans and it really starts to pile up..

then the fuel, ferry costs, site fees for (perhaps) 20-30 weeks touring a year......

I do have some numbers but I'm loath to add it all up.....yes, I can afford it but 'cheap', (nor 'cheapest') it ain't....

back OT, I'm glad to say that our (nor their) electricity costs have risen by 25% this year.....

is Martin Lewis a member?

how come we never get any of the emails?

It may well be that your contact 'preferences' prohibit emails...of any kind..including marketing offers etc. Check your membership profile....

Aside...the rationale for the increase in some site fees is stated as Energy/Utility cost have increased....together with a rise in the 'Living Wage'...

Agree, the 'other' club prices are relatively cheaper..but then most sites are in the middle of a field..in the middle of nowhere ! In addition, unlike this club, the C&CC have not yet purchased one new site...

"IMHO, caravanning/MHing certainly isn't a cheap form of holidaying, not in the way most forum members do it......£40k tow cars every 3/4 years and £25k caravans every other NEC show..."

Really, BB? You think "most" forum members do that? It's a good job I don't let Mrs M anywhere near the forum then!  I guess your reference to expensive tow cars and caravans just as easily applies to changing Motorhomes as well, but I have to say, you must move in very different circles to us! 

GTP. No but they did take over a prime Club site on Windermere?! 

And denied its usage to weekenders by a 5 night minimum stay. We used it earlier this year and that site and Moffat were one (should that be two?) of the reasons for joining C&CC

We did the costs too when our three children were young and we opted for house exchanges, one of the best ways to get a good holiday for less money, just travel and living expenses.