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replied on 28/11/2018 13:32
Posted on 28/11/2018 11:46 by viatoremCosts and value mean different things to different people, some like wild camping some like Necker Island. Each would argue the value.
I view van costs as being amortised over the the ownership period. So with a damp finger here goes.
IMO I would have to run a car anyway, so the cost of the van over its onwership of say 7 - 10 years minus resale value is about £1k a year plus service insurance and other sundries say totals £2k/yr to run and own. holidays average 100 nights site fees = £1.5k then there is the additional cost of being away fuel, food etc in excess of "normal" costs approx £1.5k. so that's £5k= so approx £50/night all inclusive 2-4 people and dog (UK travel) which I view as good value.
peedee replied on 29/11/2018 08:35
Posted on 27/11/2018 10:24 by DavidKlynePeedee
I am sure there are some of us that thrive on detail but I suspect we are considerably outnumbered by those that just want the minimum and I suspect it is those members that the Club are addressing?
David
peedee replied on 29/11/2018 08:42
Posted on 29/11/2018 08:42
I view van costs as being amortised over the the ownership period. So with a damp finger here goes.
Going a bit off track here but I am led to believe that from new in the first year you take a big hit (lose the VAT?) and in years 1 to 9 depreciation is 5 percent per annum then 15 percent in its 10th year. after than I have no idea.
These are the figures I use for insured value.
peedee
replied on 29/11/2018 09:05
Posted on 27/11/2018 09:39 by DavidKlyneI think I am right in saying that in the past the Club have just increased site prices with little in the way of explanation. This year, maybe because of the change in the booking system, they have tried to be a bit more transparent about it. Good to see that on 23 sites prices will not increase and some of those 23 are pretty popular. I have been critical of the Club in the past for not being very good at member communication but now they are making an effort they seem to be dammed if they do and dammed if they don't!!!
David
Posted on 29/11/2018 09:05
This year, maybe because of the change in the booking system, they have tried to be a bit more transparent about it.
That did make me smile David; the thought of transparency did amuse me somewhat. Sadly I stopped believing in the Easter Bunny and Santa many years ago. Guess that I must be a cynic
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young thomas replied on 29/11/2018 09:47
Posted on 28/11/2018 13:28 by CornersteadyYes agree, and in answer to ET and BB, you should look at the cost over time.
when we looked at caravaning we did some homework. A family holiday at that time (we had four children) was about £1500/£2000 for one two week holiday in the sun. That was affordable but that would have been it, For about £8000 (this was nearly 20 years ago) we could get a new van and use it all year round. In three/four years the van's initial cost would have paid for itself and then yearly holiday costs would decrease. It was by far a much cheaper option.
Posted on 29/11/2018 09:47
interesting....my son and partner both work full time for the emergency services....they have just (2 years ago) bought a flat....
they didn't have a car and cycled to work......I gave them my old Audi when we downsized to a single 'city car'....
they couldn't afford the huge deposit on their Bristol property so 'we helped' make it happen....
a car parking place was another £10k....which was a stretch too far...
the Audi is now 16 years old, still flying but starship miles from my original business use and to think they could find a replacement to tow a caravan they can't afford (and nowhere to keep) is totally unrealistic......
so, they 'go away' at short notice on the cheapest flights possible, back pack and use cheap hotels and the like, eating local food, often in the street....
they love what they do and have seen the world....more than us and we are pretty well travelled....
they like the occasional family get together at a site that takes vans, their tent, lodges etc....but this is not their idea of a (real) holiday...
IMHO, caravanning/MHing certainly isn't a cheap form of holidaying, not in the way most forum members do it......£40k tow cars every 3/4 years and £25k caravans every other NEC show...
add in the fixed costs to maintain new(ish) cars/vans and it really starts to pile up..
then the fuel, ferry costs, site fees for (perhaps) 20-30 weeks touring a year......
I do have some numbers but I'm loath to add it all up.....yes, I can afford it but 'cheap', (nor 'cheapest') it ain't....
back OT, I'm glad to say that our (nor their) electricity costs have risen by 25% this year.....
is Martin Lewis a member?
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GTP replied on 29/11/2018 10:08
Posted on 26/11/2018 17:30 by TammygirlOut of curiosity I had a look at next years prices and dates.
Seems Easter (premium rate) is from 5/4 - 22/4.
Other club has it 12/4 - 27/4 for England and 1/4 - 22/4 for Scotland
I will be choosing my sites and clubs very carefully.
Another £1 rise on the membership
how come we never get any of the emails?
Posted on 29/11/2018 10:08
how come we never get any of the emails?
It may well be that your contact 'preferences' prohibit emails...of any kind..including marketing offers etc. Check your membership profile....
Aside...the rationale for the increase in some site fees is stated as Energy/Utility cost have increased....together with a rise in the 'Living Wage'...
Agree, the 'other' club prices are relatively cheaper..but then most sites are in the middle of a field..in the middle of nowhere ! In addition, unlike this club, the C&CC have not yet purchased one new site...
moulesy replied on 29/11/2018 10:42
Posted on 29/11/2018 10:42
"IMHO, caravanning/MHing certainly isn't a cheap form of holidaying, not in the way most forum members do it......£40k tow cars every 3/4 years and £25k caravans every other NEC show..."
Really, BB? You think "most" forum members do that? It's a good job I don't let Mrs M anywhere near the forum then! I guess your reference to expensive tow cars and caravans just as easily applies to changing Motorhomes as well, but I have to say, you must move in very different circles to us!
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brue replied on 29/11/2018 10:43
replied on 29/11/2018 10:50
Posted on 29/11/2018 10:43 by brueGTP. No but they did take over a prime Club site on Windermere?!
brue replied on 29/11/2018 10:52
Posted on 28/11/2018 13:28 by CornersteadyYes agree, and in answer to ET and BB, you should look at the cost over time.
when we looked at caravaning we did some homework. A family holiday at that time (we had four children) was about £1500/£2000 for one two week holiday in the sun. That was affordable but that would have been it, For about £8000 (this was nearly 20 years ago) we could get a new van and use it all year round. In three/four years the van's initial cost would have paid for itself and then yearly holiday costs would decrease. It was by far a much cheaper option.
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