Blue Badge Registered Disabled .
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Twos more then one replied on 23/09/2021 19:39
moulesy replied on 23/09/2021 19:44
Posted on 23/09/2021 19:44
TMTO - I am trying to understand your point of view, but quite frankly, failing badly.
Can I just ask if you have ever not been able to get a pitch you wanted on a club site because it has been allocated "disabled"? If so, presumably you could ask for it yourself. Have you ever needed to use the disabled toilet/shower facilities and not been able to because it's being used by someone else who you perceive as not being disabled?
If the answer to those questions is "no", then to be honest I really don't see what the problem is, except for a disturbing lack of trust in your fellow members.
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JVB66 replied on 23/09/2021 19:44
Posted on 23/09/2021 19:34 by Twos more then oneIn reference to proof, I suggest you read the application form for a blue badge, would you like the link ?
How about proof and applications for disability related benefits and welfare etcNever claimed such documentation is proof of a disability registration ,but you would need such proof to claim for disability registration
replied on 23/09/2021 19:45
Posted on 23/09/2021 19:34 by Twos more then oneIn reference to proof, I suggest you read the application form for a blue badge, would you like the link ?
How about proof and applications for disability related benefits and welfare etcNever claimed such documentation is proof of a disability registration ,but you would need such proof to claim for disability registration
Posted on 23/09/2021 19:45
Totally of no consequence to whether one is in fact registered as disabled or whether anybody had a blue badge. Not sure quite what a Blue Badge has to do with disability as a direct proof. My late wife was on a disability allowance but had no need for and did not hold a Blue Badge.
Ah yes and I do believe that the earth is flat if you say so
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JVB66 replied on 23/09/2021 19:48
Posted on 23/09/2021 19:39 by Twos more then oneNot if the person is asking for special treatment due to a disability
replied on 23/09/2021 19:53
Posted on 23/09/2021 19:39 by Twos more then oneNot if the person is asking for special treatment due to a disability
Posted on 23/09/2021 19:53
Do you never read what long term members are telling you as a fact. You do not need to be registered disabled or otherwise to use such facilities on a Club site as others have said. You merely have to state that you have a need. In this instance your knowledge seems to be the square root of minus one
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replied on 23/09/2021 20:13
Hja replied on 23/09/2021 21:17
Posted on 23/09/2021 21:17
There is no such thing as registered disabled. Many years ago there was a green card which was a disability registration document - usually used by big employers who, at that time, had to demonstrate a particular % of disabled workers. That all went years ago. Nearly every form of any type you fill in will now ask the question "do YOU consider YOURSELF disabled". In some circumstances the next question will be to ask what modifications are necessary for you to undertake the task - e.g. attend an interview.
In terms of the Equality Act only a court of law can determine if someone is disabled, under the Act, and therefore entitled to its protection.
Blue Badges are for the purpose of advantageous parking facilities, usually larger and more convenient parking bays, sometimes lower prices (or longer time). They are no longer issued just for mobility issues but e.g. some hidden disabilities such as autism, acute anxiety etc. The rules of issue conform to a general standard, but are for the relevant local authority to determine.(County Council, Metropolitan Borough etc) Sometimes Blue Badges are used to prove identity because they contain a photo, but that is not their purpose.
Under the social model of disability that is largely accepted in the UK today it is for someone to decide for themselves if they are disabled. "Proof" is usually only needed in limited circumstances, - if for example, the organization is adjusting its work place to accommodate the disabled person, and then usually through an occupational health report.
The CAMC like most responsible organizations provides appropriate disabled facilities for its members. This includes washing and toilet facilities that are variously adapted - from the "assisted" toilets in the main blocks to full disabled showers and toilets that allow some one relevant space and equipment, possibly accompanied by a carer. It is not for the Club to determine who can use those facilities, not for them to determine if someone is disabled "enough" to use them. The wardens are in no way qualified to do so. The Club also facilitates the siting of members who request it, to use pitches close to facilities, if available. If you ring to ask for a pitch close to facilities you are almost always going to explain why - that is what people do. It may be because you have a permanent disability, or it may be temporary e.g. after an operation. I have been in that position, and found wardens helpful and accommodating.
Clearly there are some sites where there are very few HS pitches, and I can see that maybe a problem, especially if they are serviced pitches. Unfortunately, as many disabled people find, forward planning sometime in advance is key, where booking Club sites, travelling by train or a myriad of other activities.
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Tinwheeler replied on 23/09/2021 21:34
Wherenext replied on 23/09/2021 22:09
Posted on 23/09/2021 21:34 by TinwheelerGood post, hja 👍
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