Is (casual) European touring ruined forever?

PaulAbroad replied on 13/09/2023 12:25

Posted on 13/09/2023 12:25

We've been caravanning abroad for 40+years covering the majority of European countries, but this year something has changed. 

When the kids were small we had to holiday during August but rarely, if ever, booked ahead but it was rarely a problem finding a pitch, although it was obviously busy. When we were able to delay until September things were so much more relaxed with plenty of pitches to choose from at any site. 

This year the enjoyment has been somewhat curtailed with lots of ringing around required and many sites being full. Some sites that do offer a pitch shove you in a tight spot somewhere just to do you a favour. We started at Orleans, then Lyon, both very busy but some availability. Moving down to Cote d'azur (yes I know it's popular) everywhere is rammed and we ended up in a site's 'waiting room' area for three nights. Moving over the border into Italy... same problem with outfits being packed in like sardines. 

So onto Annecy, surely there would be plenty of availability? Nope, full signs everywhere but we were squeezed into a pitch on yet another rammed site. Ten minutes later and we wouldn't have even had that. I can't believe this is happening in September.

So... is it the case that the pandemic saw such huge increases in campervan/motorhome ownership - not many caravans about - there just isn't the capacity any longer? Looks like a big rethink is required for future holidays. Booking ahead the whole holiday? Never done that and don't intend to. Just find places that aren't as popular? Well of course there's a reason places are popular...

I'd be interested in the experiences and observations of others.

DavidKlyne replied on 20/09/2023 15:28

Posted on 20/09/2023 15:28

Are things different to say 10/20 years ago? We haven't been abroad since 2016 so can't really comment on the current situation. Thinking back over the years there were sites that you either had to plan an early arrival at in order to get a place. This could be in France, Germany, Austria and Italy. When we first retired, from 2008 until 2016 we  used to go for 8 weeks in May/June and 4/6 weeks in September/October. The earlier part of the years was always busier. Later on not so much but we did arrive at one site in the S of F in early September which was full, fortunately there were alternatives nearby. We have also arrived at sites that by early evening have been full, although some of them empty out the next day.

David

SteveL replied on 20/09/2023 17:31

Posted on 20/09/2023 15:28 by DavidKlyne

Are things different to say 10/20 years ago? We haven't been abroad since 2016 so can't really comment on the current situation. Thinking back over the years there were sites that you either had to plan an early arrival at in order to get a place. This could be in France, Germany, Austria and Italy. When we first retired, from 2008 until 2016 we  used to go for 8 weeks in May/June and 4/6 weeks in September/October. The earlier part of the years was always busier. Later on not so much but we did arrive at one site in the S of F in early September which was full, fortunately there were alternatives nearby. We have also arrived at sites that by early evening have been full, although some of them empty out the next day.

David

Posted on 20/09/2023 17:31

fortunately there were alternatives nearby.

I think that’s the big difference between here and at home, there are so many alternatives, particularly in a MH. We wanted to visit the Roman sites in Vaison. I knew this area was popular so checked the site in the town online. It had one available space, which was gone before I could book it. So we have opted for the Aire, €9.60 a night with water / waste, no electric, so I cleaned the dust layer off the solar panels😂 That is now more or less full, although perhaps another one / two could fit. If we were towing a caravan the site a few Kms out of town has plenty of space and there is ample parking in town.

Tammygirl replied on 21/09/2023 09:44

Posted on 21/09/2023 09:44

Currently over here in France, first site was about 30% full, same for the second site. Just now we are on a CCP Mon Village site, there were 6 vans on last night, 3 left this morning. OK today its pouring with rain and tomorrow looks to be the same.

What will Spain and Portugal be like who knows, we will find out next week.

Good to hear from others who are already there. In previous years we've found once we get to mid October it calms down for a month to 6 weeks then gets busier again as it gets closer to Christmas. 

peedee replied on 21/09/2023 09:58

Posted on 21/09/2023 09:58

Still plenty of empty pitches down here TG and the weather is fne and sunny, a little too hot yesterday but the forecast is for cooler by the weekend. We are heading home on Sunday via the Somport tunnel on Tuesday and up to Bordeaux Chartes and Rouen. Will our paths cross?

peedee

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